Old 06-21-2021, 02:39 AM   #361
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^^^i also agree. Simple, natural, expandable for future, clean, dockable like toolbars doing a combination of relevant existing features with new ones into a new FXCHAIN panel. Possibly taking advantages of the new Reaper VST UI embedding and ReaImGui or the original IMGUI for C++.
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Old 06-21-2021, 05:53 AM   #362
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I actually like the wirings

it is like a schematic diagram where I can easily see everything.
I think that once we will have this 1 of the options, the other GUI will be easily doable/scripable.
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Old 06-21-2021, 07:20 AM   #363
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[QUOTE=UknownSource;2456293]I actually like the wirings

it is like a schematic diagram where I can easily see everything.


Concur. I am a very visual thinker. Tracking the signal flow is my favorite way to edit. I believe that with a little effort Reaper's Track Wiring could become what we all seem to want.
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:15 PM   #364
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do the devs check this FR forum ?
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Old 06-30-2021, 08:28 AM   #365
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do the devs check this FR forum ?
Of course they check the forum. And you can probably assume that they are aware of our proposals/wishes and they maybe even thought about it for a second or more. But of course they only will interact with the public after they have thought it through thoroughly. (think about it, would you share your thoughts before you would be 100% sure?)

Please relax a little bit and try to be patient (i know it can be hard). I also would love to hear their thoughts about this feature. But we should not forget that they already interact very freqeuntly with the community on a daily basis. So when they donīt share their opinion on every little subject it shouldn`t be a problem.

They need to have their freedom to think about features first before involving the community. Letīs hope we donīt have to wait to long... but i could imagine that there is a huge list of equaly great features on their to-do-list. Try to make the best out of it as it is...
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Old 06-30-2021, 09:02 AM   #366
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This is a very complex feature that will take some time to implement seamlessly and will open many cans of worms. I am confident that eventually the devs will take on the challenge. Forcing them into this won’t help, they will do when they feel is the right time. The best thing to do is keep this thread alive, post ideas and stay on topic, I am sure eventually something will happen. Many features get implemented after a decade of people bumping them so don’t lose hope.
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Many features get implemented after a decade of people bumping them so don’t lose hope.
Phazma you have motivational speech skills
One decade or two and it has 50% chances of being implemented. I sleep better today !
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Old 06-30-2021, 09:30 AM   #368
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Phazma you have motivational speech skills
One decade or two and it has 50% chances of being implemented. I sleep better today !
You didn’t read that the way I intended, maybe my wording was bad I wanted to say that many feature requests get implemented, recent and also very old, so even if a FR exists for a decade it is not said that the devs have decided to not ever implement it. Sometimes they surprise you when you least expect it. Maybe for this FR the time is v 6.4? Or even earlier, like already the next cycle 6.31? Who knows.. just don’t lose hope
I hope it sounds better like this :P
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Maybe for this FR the time is v 6.4?
Hehe... would be neat.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:15 PM   #370
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Maybe for this FR the time is v 6.4?
This is more a visual/workflow than a functional update.
Pure visual updates usually are done in major versions. hence it's more like 7.0

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Old 07-18-2021, 10:39 PM   #371
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hey
any update in this area?
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Old 07-30-2021, 02:11 PM   #372
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nothing so far
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Old 08-14-2021, 12:55 PM   #373
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Another reason for FX containers, to try and replicate things like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI6UcaNMltk
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developers ?
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developers ?
"Hahaha... puny mortal... what a fool... for assuming to get an answer from gods."

(just kiddin )
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"Hahaha... puny mortal... what a fool... for assuming to get an answer from gods."

(just kiddin )
ahhhh I'm losing my hope in this DAW
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ahhhh I'm losing my hope in this DAW
No need to... Reaper still is by far the coolest DAW on the block.

An FX-Container would be a great addition and would bring a lot of "value" with it. In my opinion it is not just another Feature Request out there, it should really get some attention. And there is no doubt, that it would be an immense benefit to many Reaper users.

But making music, being creative and enjoying the joy of sound isnīt dependent on such construct. It just can sometimes make it harder... Try to look forward to it, rather than getting frustrated by its absents. We will get there... togheter.
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No need to... Reaper still is by far the coolest DAW on the block.

An FX-Container would be a great addition and would bring a lot of "value" with it. In my opinion it is not just another Feature Request out there, it should really get some attention. And there is no doubt, that it would be an immense benefit to many Reaper users.

But making music, being creative and enjoying the joy of sound isnīt dependent on such construct. It just can sometimes make it harder... Try to look forward to it, rather than getting frustrated by its absents. We will get there... togheter.
I agree with both but I'm also frustrated.

I bought many "containers" vsts, yet non of them is close to be as effective as native container.

this is very very frustrating actually :X
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Old 08-30-2021, 11:55 AM   #379
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Don't get discouraged and lose hope...
Reaper is still the same Reaper - flexible and one of the most powerful DAWs.

I guess work is being done in this direction, the developers are well aware that FX-Container are needed.
Perhaps what is done is still raw, so they are silent. But one day we will see FX-Container in the beta version of Reaper and the refinement process will start, as it was with Razor Edit.
I think so, just my thoughts..
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Old 08-31-2021, 06:15 AM   #380
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I think that you guys are just way too naive for thinking that they can actually make it.
as far as I notice there are only 2 devs here.
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as far as I notice there are only 2 devs here.
So lets pray for their health.
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I think that you guys are just way too naive
Hmmmmmm naivity, what bliss.... you should try it too.

Keep your head up... this FR isnīt re-activated for that long. I could imagine that the FR is already on a To-Do list but first there are some other things to do which have more priority.
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:31 AM   #383
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what if we had something like MXXX with ability to load vsts ^_^
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In my opinion Bitwig took Ableton`s approach and made it even better. To me Bitwig has the best FX-Container system on the market (modulators not included !)... They got several distincive Containers for different tasks: Mid-Side Container, FX-Layer, Instrument Layer, FX-Chain, Vector XY Container, Insturment-Selector Containers,...
100% agree with you operator, Bitwig has by far the best racks-containers-patcher system, Melda production is great as well. I hope one day someone will implement that feature in Reaper. I would pay for something like that, maybe we could start a donation group and try to convince one of the guys here in the forum to do it or even better the Reaper devs.

Instrument Layer:



FX-Layer:



Mid-Side Container:


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the thing with fx containers is that it really makes it fun to make complex presets which really worth it.

this is something that I would donate for it too.
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the thing with fx containers is that it really makes it fun to make complex presets.
And after the joy of creating the sound the FX-Container can show even more of its strengths.

Handling a complex sound-creation as an instrumental part of a composition can be challenging especially over the timespan of a project. But having almost each instrumental part being such complex construct can be overwhelming. And for that matter I often found myself "diminishing" myself in some sort of way. EITHER I take the time that is needed to create/re-visit the complex routing but my flow-state suffers immensely under this time consuming task, OR I diminish the intrinsic complexity of the task itself in favor of creativity... (I often dummy the task down or buy a VST that solves the issue e.g. ducking Delay) BUT both ways arenīt optimal nor do they support much further creative openness...

We as creatives need help... help in pushing (our) boundaries.
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And after the joy of creating the sound the FX-Container can show even more of its strengths.

Handling a complex sound-creation as an instrumental part of a composition can be challenging especially over the timespan of a project. But having almost each instrumental part being such complex construct can be overwhelming. And for that matter I often found myself "diminishing" myself in some sort of way. EITHER I take the time that is needed to create/re-visit the complex routing but my flow-state suffers immensely under this time consuming task, OR I diminish the intrinsic complexity of the task itself in favor of creativity... (I often dummy the task down or buy a VST that solves the issue e.g. ducking Delay) BUT both ways arenīt optimal nor do they support much further creative openness...

We as creatives need help... help in pushing (our) boundaries.
This is key. Not having FX Containers totally interrupts the flow state of having a (fleeting!) sound in your mind and taking control of the tools and creating it. All the routing and folders and pin assigning and bleghhht, I've also dumbed my ideas down just to not bother.

Totally solved using even the most primitive FX Container.
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no preset system and no fx container

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Old 09-05-2021, 06:13 AM   #389
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I should have learnt programming... silly me.
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I should have learnt programming... silly me.
If you know one language, doesn't mean you will understand the other one.
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I should have learnt programming... silly me.
You should have learned to pick the tool that best suits your needs and how to communicate effectively.
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You should have learned to pick the tool that best suits your needs and how to communicate effectively.
Ouch. Well, I did find these links for anyone who wants to start learning to program. I hear Python is likely what we should be learning these days especially with future machine learning in mind:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWv...H4-V0ZXdmDpPBA

I've been watching this 6-hour course, now I just have to actually do it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQrJ0TkZlc

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I hear Python is likely what we should be learning these days especially with future machine learning in mind
Yeah, Python is the most popular option for ML at the moment. But if you want to get into audio, C++ is probably the best choice.
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+1 to this request in general.

Having used such solutions in other apps, I'd find a native FX container (or FX rack, or FX node patcher, or whatever the idea could become in context of REAPER) useful for synthesis and sound design.
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