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Old 01-20-2012, 02:05 PM   #1
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Default DEFINITELY versus DEFIANTLY

Sory but I have reached breaking point.

DEFINITELY is the word you meant to use.

DEFIANTLY means you are acting in a defiant manner.


That's all I wanted to say.


No bugger will actually read this, so I guess I am pissing into the wind, but FWIW I feel better about life the universe and everything now I have gotten that off my chest.


(grin)
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:10 PM   #2
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similarly ...

"I could care less" ... is probably not what a lot of people actually mean



btw, did you mean sorry, or sory (a black earth impregnated with vitriol)?
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:37 AM   #3
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Thank you for bringing this up. While we're on the topic, here are a few other pointers (this stuff annoys me to the point where I cannot even be bothered to read posts from people who pack them full of linguistic bugs):

- "Your" and "You're" are completely different things

- Questions end with a question mark, not a full stop

- "Then" and "Than" are also completely different things

The bold one in the middle... I really can't stress that enough. Reading a sentence that's obviously constructed as a question, only to arrive at a full stop at the end, is incredibly uncomfortable. It just makes me cringe every single time.
Stop it.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:17 AM   #4
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Sory but I have reached breaking point.

DEFINITELY is the word you meant to use.

DEFIANTLY means you are acting in a defiant manner.


That's all I wanted to say.


No bugger will actually read this, so I guess I am pissing into the wind, but FWIW I feel better about life the universe and everything now I have gotten that off my chest.


(grin)
I think you should edit this post so it is correct!
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I was just wandering about this very thing.
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I should off known there's a difference.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:57 AM   #7
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You guy's are funny.
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No there not.
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Its funny, but it's meaning isn't clear.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:11 AM   #10
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Are you guy's trying to insight something here(?)

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I'm sorry, what did you say andysarchus?
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I'm sorry, what did you say andysarchus?
Mmmmm. Iv'e been getting this alot lately. I wander why?
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This should help you guys out,

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling
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Sory but I have reached breaking point.

DEFINITELY is the word you meant to use.

DEFIANTLY means you are acting in a defiant manner.


That's all I wanted to say.


No bugger will actually read this, so I guess I am pissing into the wind, but FWIW I feel better about life the universe and everything now I have gotten that off my chest.


(grin)
Who's getting that one wrong?

I haven't seen that one. Or am I loosing my mind? Irregardless...
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:05 PM   #15
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This should help you guys out,

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling
Thanks, bookmarking it. The only thing it leaves out is the incorrect apostrophe in plurals as timlloyd pointed out.
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Default "You and I" vs "You and me"

(Substitute "you" for the appropriate pronoun for a given situation.)

You and I need to buy Fred a beer. --> RIGHT (but untrue)

Fred needs to buy you and I a beer. --> WRONG (true though!)

How can you tell? Just leave out "you and" and see how it sounds.

e.g. I need to buy Fred a beer. --> Sounds OK.

Fred needs to buy I a beer. --> Huh????



Who gets that one right???
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:58 AM   #17
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(Substitute "you" for the appropriate pronoun for a given situation.)

You and I need to buy Fred a beer. --> RIGHT (but untrue)

Fred needs to buy you and I a beer. --> WRONG (true though!)

How can you tell? Just leave out "you and" and see how it sounds.

e.g. I need to buy Fred a beer. --> Sounds OK.

Fred needs to buy I a beer. --> Huh????



Who gets that one right???
But my name's not Fred and neither is yours.
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I know I and Fred, but who is you?
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Who's getting that one wrong?

I haven't seen that one. Or am I loosing my mind? Irregardless...
I am guilty.......

But even so it is the net, and I can overlook a LOT of miss-spellings because, hey, things happen..but one thing I will not read is a sentence that goes on & on without ever stopping even if they are asking a question or answering one there is no end in sight it just goes on & on & on

Gives me a head ache....
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What makes them even more fun to read is that sometimes these endless sentences that go on and on and you read them thinking they must make kind of sense if you just stick with it long enough at a certain point seamlessly change new gloves, because yesterday it was freezing cold outside.
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Interestingly, Gofer's sentence can be expressed in a single German word.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:53 PM   #22
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Yep, you're right. I think it would be thoroughly enough paraphrazed by the simple noun Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsanwärter .
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It bothers me to no end when people right:

I would of gone to the zoo. I could of gone to the zoo. I SHOULD OF GONE TO THE ZOO!

That is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

When you speak, what sounds like "(W/C/Sh)ould of" is, in fact, "(W/C/Sh)ould've." Those words are contractions of the following word pairs:

Would've → Would have
Could've → Could have
Should've → Should have

I should of gone to the zoo. -- This makes absolutely zero grammatical sense. The word "of" is a preposition. It is to be used only in a prepositional phrase. A prepositional phrase consists of a preposition followed by a noun.

I like to go to the zoo.

(On a side note, never end a sentence with a preposition. I understand that, in our spoken language, it is acceptable, but not in written language. At least, it isn't to me. I try to not to end sentences with prepositions, unless, in doing so, I make the sentence rather confusing.)

(On another side note, never split infinitives. An infinitive is the base form of the word in the form of "to + <verb>" [exempli gratia, to walk, to smoke, to sleep]. One of the most famous split infinitives is "...to boldly go where no man has gone before." "To boldly go" is grammatically incorrect. It is impossible to boldly. Can you boldly yourself? Can congress boldly? Can anything have boldlied while others are boldying? The answer is "no." Place your adverb elsewhere. "To run quickly" → "To quickly run". I also don't like it when verb phrases are interrupted by adverbs, much like split infinitives. Same with splitting a subject from its verb phrase. Unless you're talking like Yoda [To the marsh, to learn the ways of the Jedi, tomorrow, go, will you.], "We have finally returned." should be "We have returned finally." Similarly, "I willingly go" should be "I go willingly." It is also acceptable to preface your sentence with your adverb: "Finally, we have returned." or "Willingly, I go.")

Thus, the use of "would of" (or similar) is completely incorrect.

Don't do it.

"Would have" is correct.

I would have gone to the zoo.

I is the subject.
would have gone is the verb phrase. It consists of the past perfect form of "to have," "would have," and the past participle form of "to go," "gone."
to the zoo. is the prepositional phrase. It adds information to the verb phrase, specifying to where the subject would have gone - to the zoo.

This is what makes sense. "Would of" makes no sense.

Please use the correct combination of words!

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It bothers me to no end when people right:
You should off ritten "write". Or perhaps you forget to write "aren't"?

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You should off ritten "write". Or perhaps you forget to write "aren't"?

Your rite! Know, eye am know talking about you're ritual.

Yeah, I pulled a boner there.

Here is a good website...

http://www3.telus.net/linguisticsiss...inenglish.html
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Four all intensive purposes, this thread is reel interesting....
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Four all intensive purposes, this thread is reel interesting....
hehehehe
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We'd betta get this right betn't we.

Yeah we'd bet to.

I've actually heard both of these at different times...
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Four all intensive purposes, this thread is reel interesting....
in tents and porpoises?
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We'd betta get this right betn't we.

Yeah we'd bet to.

I've actually heard both of these at different times...
Only in Orestraylya shorely?

I hope you don't mind, I brang some more...
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Only in Orestraylya shorely?
Don't call me shorely!

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What makes them even more fun to read is that sometimes these endless sentences that go on and on and you read them thinking they must make kind of sense if you just stick with it long enough at a certain point seamlessly change new gloves, because yesterday it was freezing cold outside.
For no particular reason this reminds
me of the fella called Dan
Whose poetry just wouldn't scan
He said every time
I write a new rhyme
I always try to cram as many syllables into the last line as I possibly can.
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Equally annoying is the use of the double negative (e.g. "I never saw nobody").

Cue for a joke:

A linguistics professor was lecturing to his class one day. "In English," he said, "a double negative forms a positive. In some languages though, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative.

However," he pointed out, "there is no language wherein a double positive can form a negative."

A voice from the back of the room piped up, "Yeah, right


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Equally annoying is the use of the double negative (e.g. "I never saw nobody").

Cue for a joke:

A linguistics professor was lecturing to his class one day. "In English," he said, "a double negative forms a positive. In some languages though, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative.

However," he pointed out, "there is no language wherein a double positive can form a negative."

A voice from the back of the room piped up, "Yeah, right


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Mmmmm. Iv'e been getting this alot lately. I wander why?

Put them away.

On second thoughts, GET THEM OUT!
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Your point is mute.

No, I believe what you mean is your point is MOOT. Mute would imply that it has no sound. Moot means it has no validity to the argument.
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Your all to be complemented for the above posts. They compliment each other nicely.








Oops..
Oops...
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I am humbly proud to see you are all bearing the torch for me, chaps.

Currently tryin gto get Mexicans to write English correctly.
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I am humbly proud to see you are all bearing the torch for me, chaps.
its most inpressive actuerly,,if one should of posted a similer threat on any nother sight ppl wud defiantly get all deffensive scream n shout instead lol
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From preaching the gospel according to St Oxford the Concise to the benighted savages in Mexico, I have just spent a week in Belize, where the natives speak an oddly accented, but still comprehensible, version of the Queens English.
Unfortunately our fellow travelers were for the most part natives from the American Colonies, who have apparently ceased speaking English altogether nowadays and have invented a crude patois having at least a vague semblance to the Mother tongue.... *sigh*
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