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Old 07-20-2018, 10:17 PM   #1
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Default Track Fader on Armed track A moves volume for other Armed tracks ????

Hello Guys,

Coming back to Reaper after a little while but ... I don't recall this being the normal behavior.

I have a project with about a dozen of tracks, if multiple tracks are armed at the same time and I move the fader of one of them, it's gonna affect the volume of the other tracks (move their fader aswell)

How can I disable this feature?


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Old 07-20-2018, 11:41 PM   #2
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This should only happen if all the tracks are selected. If it's happening with only one track selected, they've probably been grouped. Maybe you hit the shortcut by accident. You'll be able to see that easily if you open the Grouping Matrix.
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:10 PM   #3
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Hey Fox! I checked the grouping matrix but didnt find anything checked yet.

any other idea at the top of your head ?!
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:00 AM   #4
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Are you sure you didn't accidentally select them?
I.e. what it explains here under "ad-hoc grouping":
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniq...ouping-linking

Don't know if this feature can be toggled on/off. I get caught out by that a lot too. I usually notice a lot later that I must have still had track x selected when I tweaked track y.
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Old 07-25-2018, 07:44 AM   #5
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Perhaps you could compress a simple problem project file (no audio samples needed) into a ZIP file and post it here as an attachment so that we can have a look at it and see what's (not) happening?

How to post attachments (in Post #1)
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:14 PM   #6
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Hi Force & Dark!

That's pretty much what you guys are describing in the Ad Hoc when I have multiple tracks selected, one fader affects the other. I definately DON't want that behavior, how could I make each track independant ?

In my Live setup, where I got launchpad mapped to selecting track (and auto arm on these tracks. It happens often when we got say one audio track armed (track selected for the guitar solo) while a lead synth is armed aswell for the synth solo.

Here's my template as requested. File was 8mb so I had to upload to onedrive


https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApUammFUyQQtgv4BII4bKb4RuExqfg

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Old 08-01-2018, 07:59 PM   #7
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Bump !!

Can this ad-hoc feature be enabled off ??
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:46 PM   #8
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Can this ad-hoc feature be enabled off ??
No, but you can hold shift. Why do you need to keep all the tracks selected? If you're e.g just trying to arm them all at once etc, the tracks can be grouped instead.
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Old 08-02-2018, 05:58 AM   #9
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No, but you can hold shift. Why do you need to keep all the tracks selected? If you're e.g just trying to arm them all at once etc, the tracks can be grouped instead.
Usually what trips me up is a scenario like this, for example:
I have a reasonably busy mix and just want to try whether I should go a bit sparser, so I select a bunch of tracks and/or busses and toggle mute to see whether that would work better. Then I decide it doesn't work better, but that flute needs to come down a bit. Unfortunately that flute is still selected together with a bunch of other things and because I don't pay attention I'm now pulling all of them down.

Ok, this is somewhat simplified, in a case like this even I would probably hear that something's up. But I've had cases where for one reason or another a muted track was still selected and off screen and I was tinkering with it without noticing.

And this might be totally me and my way of working but what would be ideal for me would be to invert the behaviour: i.e. Only when I hold shift what I do will get propagated to all selected tracks.
I do like the ability of ad-hoc grouping and I use it often deliberately, too. But unfortunately sometimes I do when I don't mean it.

Or, to put it bluntly: I don't want to have to check what is selected every time before I make a change.
But if I /do/ want to make a change to more than one thing, I'm obviously happy to check that the correct things are selected.

Just my 2p
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:45 PM   #10
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No, but you can hold shift. Why do you need to keep all the tracks selected? If you're e.g just trying to arm them all at once etc, the tracks can be grouped instead.
I have a live performance project where my launchpad has a row of pads mapped to track select 01 to 08 (through ReaLearn plugin by helgoboss).
Working like this was the only way i've found to have visual feedback on launchpad telling me which track is armed and active (auto arm on selection) for each of these tracks.
Most of the time, i try to only have one track selected but it happens quite often during performance that i'll have more than one track active.

... so thats really annoying to have to doublecheck when trying to play live.

Comin from ableton, there was a function called excluse arm allowing only one track armed at a time, do we have this in reaper ?
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:48 PM   #11
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Well since you are using a MIDI controller and ReaLearn anyway, can you not use the knobs there to adjust specific tracks directly? That is another way to get around the problem. I just tested and any control mapped to a track's volume with ReaLearn, doesn't care if multiple tracks are selected.

We have exclusive arm but not the same way ableton does. There is auto-arm for selected track, specific actions for exclusive arm, or ctrl+clicking the arm button.
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