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Old 09-05-2022, 06:27 AM   #601
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Hey! Hope you are doing ok :-)

Is there anyway to get the unselected tabs in the project bay to be a little easier to read?
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Old 09-05-2022, 03:00 PM   #602
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Hey! Hope you are doing ok :-)

Is there anyway to get the unselected tabs in the project bay to be a little easier to read?
thanks! i'm ok yet.
seems that you overmessed with theme tweak/configuration window.
here is how it's originally looks:


find by keyword "tab" and there are will be a few colors to modify
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Old 09-06-2022, 01:32 AM   #603
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thanks! i'm ok yet.
seems that you overmessed with theme tweak/configuration window.
here is how it's originally looks:


find by keyword "tab" and there are will be a few colors to modify
Thanks. :-) Don't recall changing any of those but yes, the text one was set to black. I set it to grey and it's fine now. ��

By the way, did you ever come up with a solution for the item ruler problem I had?

Glad to hear you are ok as well!

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By the way, did you ever come up with a solution for the item ruler problem I had?
the main issue that item ruler and item label are the same colors and can't be defined separately. fine item ruler will destroy item label. so i have to choose between two evils
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:26 AM   #605
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the main issue that item ruler and item label are the same colors and can't be defined separately. fine item ruler will destroy item label. so i have to choose between two evils
Ah yes. I remember you mentioning that a while back.

Should I do a feature request for separate control over the item ruler and item lable to the devs?
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Should I do a feature request for separate control over the item ruler and item lable to the devs?
the main trouble that my case is absolutely subjective because of my white "fake header" above selected media items. i am not sure that it's reasonable for them to add item for one single theme from thousands. i succsessfully requested a few features and improvements but they're was usefull overall
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Ah I see. Thanks for explaining. Any other way around the issue?
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Ah I see. Thanks for explaining. Any other way around the issue?
yes, but will damage something else =(
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Old 09-12-2022, 02:44 AM   #610
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does anybody use"meterbridge" position in TCP?



nobody? ok, i'm gonna delete it

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Old 09-18-2022, 02:28 PM   #611
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does anybody use"meterbridge" position in TCP?



nobody? ok, i'm gonna delete it
It's too crowded. It needs to be positioned and scalable like White Tie's default theme in the TCP
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:27 AM   #612
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It's too crowded. It needs to be positioned and scalable like White Tie's default theme in the TCP
if you used my theme (seems you actually didn't), you would know that it contains 4 positions for meter includes "like-in-default" position too. also demo animation available on thread start:

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Old 10-19-2022, 10:54 PM   #613
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Default Thanks!! I finally know what I want.

After seeing and using this theme, I realize why a lot of the really nice modern ones havened jelled with me too well. Everything seems to blend together!! There's no hard lines, no dynamics between tools. Maybe it's something with how I see, or learn, or work... I dunno. Didn't really pick up on it until now though. Was definitely a hindrance to my work flow. Thanks a bunch internet reaper man who I'll never meet!!
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Old 10-20-2022, 02:16 PM   #614
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if you used my theme (seems you actually didn't), you would know that it contains 4 positions for meter includes "like-in-default" position too. also demo animation available on thread start:

Oh sh-t, I didn’t know about that functionality. Outstanding!
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After seeing and using this theme, I realize why a lot of the really nice modern ones havened jelled with me too well. Everything seems to blend together!! There's no hard lines, no dynamics between tools. Maybe it's something with how I see, or learn, or work... I dunno. Didn't really pick up on it until now though. Was definitely a hindrance to my work flow. Thanks a bunch internet reaper man who I'll never meet!!
i am not sure that clearly understand you but... great that you did! and thank you (perhaps) !
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Oh sh-t, I didn’t know about that functionality. Outstanding!
yea, it's the first theme adjuster parameter
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:53 AM   #617
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Default FM 3.8 Released




Flat Madness 3.8 22 november 2022
  • new TCP behavior when FX or send lists are not visible
  • longname 2 layout removed
  • longname layout is fixed and fit new logic
  • little design changes

* for ReaPack users - after synchronising packages go to find my theme in the list>right click>versions and you will see "3.8"

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Old 11-22-2022, 11:40 AM   #618
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nice.

One thing if you use a tempo like I have had recently with 3 decimal places the transport bar tempo looks bad.


So my tempo is 85.645 and it doesn't fit in the box.

Am I missing something with regards to folder tracks in the TCP, they're not that clear to me as default. Can I change this?

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Am I missing something with regards to folder tracks in the TCP, they're not that clear to me as default. Can I change this?
do you mean label color?
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Old 11-22-2022, 01:33 PM   #620
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do you mean label color?
not really , just the general way a folder track is seen. Compared to a standard theme where it's easy to see folder tracks, and hence when moving other tracks either avoid making a folder track by mistake or putting tracks into another track on purpose to make a folder track.

I found it hard looking at the TCP to see at a glance where my folder/child tracks were.

The theme is beautifully clear though so as someone who's eyesight has deteriorated after 20 years of computer screens I really like it



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* for ReaPack users - after synchronising packages go to find my theme in the list>right click>versions and you will see "3.8"
Maybe you should have called this version 3.80: apparently, ReaPack thinks it is older than 3.71 because 8 < 71.

I downloaded it just now and it looks fine. I haven't particularly noticed any significant change yet. One suggestion I can offer: the dark themes (Dark and Black) have too little contrast between track name and background in the TCP when the track is selected (layout: LONGNAME). The colors in the MCP are fine.

I am 89.68% satisfied!
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The theme is beautifully clear though so as someone who's eyesight has deteriorated after 20 years of computer screens I really like it
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Maybe you should have called this version 3.80: apparently, ReaPack thinks it is older than 3.71 because 8 < 71.
perhaps yes! i will fix some bugs and release 3.81 on a days

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I downloaded it just now and it looks fine. I haven't particularly noticed any significant change yet.
the one massive change that i spend a lot of time for is TCP buttons behaviour when FX list not enabled. you also can see it on splashscreen.
fun fact that a people who uses my theme without TCP FX list are exists. i really don't realize the reason why do they do this and they complained about empty space in the middle. but now they got it

also TCP volume slider becomes huge and contains label inside. i successfully requested an additional feature for this thing. sad, but i can't force pan/width sliders looks the same (because it's blocked by SDK but i hope i will soon

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One suggestion I can offer: the dark themes (Dark and Black) have too little contrast between track name and background in the TCP when the track is selected (layout: LONGNAME). The colors in the MCP are fine.
now longname layout looks the same to folderstate of default layout and use the same colors, you can determine the issue more granular and explain me here and there is a chance that i will apply it to 3.81
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perhaps yes! i will fix some bugs and release 3.81 on a days


the one massive change that i spend a lot of time for is TCP buttons behaviour when FX list not enabled. you also can see it on splashscreen.
fun fact that a people who uses my theme without TCP FX list are exists. i really don't realize the reason why do they do this and they complained about empty space in the middle. but now they got it

also TCP volume slider becomes huge and contains label inside. i successfully requested an additional feature for this thing. sad, but i can't force pan/width sliders looks the same (because it's blocked by SDK but i hope i will soon



now longname layout looks the same to folderstate of default layout and use the same colors, you can determine the issue more granular and explain me here and there is a chance that i will apply it to 3.81

did you see my issue with the BPM display when you have a BPM with 3 decimal places? , so basically 6 characters. the Box isn't wide enough.


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did you see my issue with the BPM display when you have a BPM with 3 decimal places? , so basically 6 characters. the Box isn't wide enough.


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yes, i see but there is no functions in SDK to expand this area when the number of characters is more. i need to re-build several elements includes transport size when it's float and collapsed to minimum to fix this. but in fact as i understand there are not so much people that uses tempo like 125.45646454. in opposite way, seems that you can see the current tempo using tempo markers. sorry for that

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yes, i see but there is no functions in SDK to expand this area when the number of characters is more. i need to re-build several elements includes transport size when it's float and collapsed to minimum to fix this. but in fact as i understand there are not so much people that uses tempo like 125.45646454. in opposite way, seems that you can see the current tempo using tempo markers. sorry for that
No problem , It’s bloody Logic audio that spits out stupid tempos like this

I used your theme all day yesterday and I’m really growing to like it. It’s the first theme I’ve really tried properly from the default(tweaked) and I think it might stay . I need to spend more time and see.

Thanks for your work , I’ll send you a donation regardless of whether I stick with it or not.

I’ve not done any midi work yet so I’m looking forward to seeing how that all looks/works.


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No problem , It’s bloody Logic audio that spits out stupid tempos like this

I used your theme all day yesterday and I’m really growing to like it. It’s the first theme I’ve really tried properly from the default(tweaked) and I think it might stay . I need to spend more time and see.

Thanks for your work , I’ll send you a donation regardless of whether I stick with it or not.

I’ve not done any midi work yet so I’m looking forward to seeing how that all looks/works.


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thank you! i am working with MIDI a lot and also groomed this area well (i guess)
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has anyone had a strange font issues since installing the helvetica fronts needed for this theme?

I@m on windows 11 and both my machines since I've installed the font pack have an issue now with certain web pages , Ebay for one now having very very thing text that's barely legible.


It's as if they're taken to using the very finest version of the newly installed font as it's default.


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here's an example

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OK been goggling and this is in fact an issue for windows users using Chrome .

This font does not normally exist on Windows and is replaced by Arial. Installing any flavour of Helvetica is somewhat tricky, since it is rather commonly used in CSS style-sheets, so can be picked up by the browser even in cases where Arial is better, to mess-up font rendering in the browser.

There are several implementations/flavours of the Helvetica Neue font. Some excel at large font-sizes but give poor results for normal sizes.


Is there anything we can do about this @gapalil001?

EDIT: OK windows users need to install a chrome extension to force replace Helvetica with Ariel.


Might be worth using a different font @gapalil001 so us windows users don't have to jump through all these hoops I thought it was a windows update that had done this so it's taken me half a day to go through everything to work out what had happened. I narrowed it down to installing your theme in the end and then the fonts.

edit 2: this also completely messed up the fonts on my STREAMDECK XL as well for the same reason. I had to manually go through every button and change the font away from Ariel as it had been hijacked by installing the Helvetic Neu.. So be ware folks.




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there is an issue with fonts explained here
generally, the Arial font is created to replace helvetica on Win OS. i would prefer to install Arial as default everywhere in my theme but seems that REAPER exclusively behaves strange to this font (or maybe it's already fixed and i don't know this) on macOS
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there is an issue with fonts explained here
generally, the Arial font is created to replace helvetica on Win OS. i would prefer to install Arial as default everywhere in my theme but seems that REAPER exclusively behaves strange to this font (or maybe it's already fixed and i don't know this) on macOS
The image just shows the poor fonts showing in Chrome. It’s very thin and hardly readable.

Same thing happened with my STREAMDECK XL fonts on the buttons I’d cunstomised.

So , for windows users who don’t want to have to go through the pain I did after installing the Helvetic fonts, what’s the best solution?

If you don’t install the Helvetic’s fonts , what happens in the theme?

I’m surprised no one else has come across this.



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The image just shows the poor fonts showing in Chrome. It’s very thin and hardly readable.

Same thing happened with my STREAMDECK XL fonts on the buttons I’d cunstomised.

So , for windows users who don’t want to have to go through the pain I did after installing the Helvetic fonts, what’s the best solution?

If you don’t install the Helvetic’s fonts , what happens in the theme?

I’m surprised no one else has come across this.



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I had the same problem with the link, you would need to change permissions. I'm on Win 10 and don't have weird issues in chrome though. That is a strange issue for sure.
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I had the same problem with the link, you would need to change permissions. I'm on Win 10 and don't have weird issues in chrome though. That is a strange issue for sure.
Sorry, not sure how to enable the link to be public. It’s not important though as it just shows a very think barely legible piece of text.

This has affected both my windows 11 machines so it’s definitely an issue as it only took a google to see that it’s a widespread problem hence there’s an actual extension to force fonts in Chrome to overcome this.


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in case of the whole discussion seems that i have to do not recommend to instal helvetica neue or helvetica fonts. they're will be automatically replaced with arial on Win and it's will be fine (those fonts are almost similar) so if you have an issues with helvetica fonts, seems that you can easily delete them. i'll remove this paragraph from the theme description. I am sorry about troubles
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update:

you cannot just uninstall the Helvetica neu font either....

You have to boot into safe mode to be able to do this even after deleting the fonts in the registry


WINDWSO USERS DO NOT INSTALL HELVETICA NEU FONT IT REALLY DOES MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM.



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Hello,

I'm using flat madness theme with helvetica on windows 10 64bits without any issues, so maybe your issue is more related by a registry key you deleted accidentaly. Are you sure the keys you removed were totaly related to Helvetica ?
Moreover, I never had to use regedit to manipulate fonts in windows, there is a special function called "font settings" it lets you manage your font.
Or maybe the TTF file you got was corrupted...
I downloaded mine from this url https://freefontsfamily.com/helvetica-neue-font-free/ if it can help :-/
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Hello,

I'm using flat madness theme with helvetica on windows 10 64bits without any issues, so maybe your issue is more related by a registry key you deleted accidentaly. Are you sure the keys you removed were totaly related to Helvetica ?
Moreover, I never had to use regedit to manipulate fonts in windows, there is a special function called "font settings" it lets you manage your font.
Or maybe the TTF file you got was corrupted...
I downloaded mine from this url https://freefontsfamily.com/helvetica-neue-font-free/ if it can help :-/
it's perhaps a window 11 issue then but if you google 'helvetica neu issues' you'll see it's a big probelm.

I'm an experienced professional user and believe me I know how to add and remove fonts the regular way(s)

I had to resort to the registry then safe mode to actually remove this font fully.

https://forums.windowscentral.com/as...-font-use.html

https://superuser.com/questions/1720...ult-windows-10

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport...elvetica_neue/


the list is endless but there a few examples

this has affected my Laptop and my main DAW machine so it's not an isolated case.

It's cost me now probably a day of my time to sort this out fully.

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update:

you cannot just uninstall the Helvetica neu font either....

You have to boot into safe mode to be able to do this even after deleting the fonts in the registry


WINDWSO USERS DO NOT INSTALL HELVETICA NEU FONT IT REALLY DOES MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM.



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as i said above, helvetica really does not necessary, and you may not see the differences in general, so it's a good idea i guess to allow Arial replace them automatically. also i replaced this advice from description
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as i said above, helvetica really does not necessary, and you may not see the differences in general, so it's a good idea i guess to allow Arial replace them automatically. also i replaced this advice from description
great glad it can help someone else in future.


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p.s. do you think you'll do a narrow mixer version so we can see more tracks in the mixer without scrolling? that's the only thing i really miss with this theme as the standard mixer strips are quite wide.
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p.s. do you think you'll do a narrow mixer version so we can see more tracks in the mixer without scrolling? that's the only thing i really miss with this theme as the standard mixer strips are quite wide.
seems that the solution is already exists - let's have a try MCP "meterbridge" layout
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:36 AM   #640
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seems that the solution is already exists - let's have a try MCP "meterbridge" layout
Ah OK, I'll give that a go thanks


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