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06-26-2016, 04:04 AM
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FR:Use current parameter value in Parameter modulation window by default
When I use parameter modulation, the value moves to the center, so I need to move the slider to get current value. Could we have tick field with saving the current parameter value by default? It will be super useful for those who use it often.
For example, I have a slider with a 0.20 value. I touch it with Alt-button, then go to Param->Parameter modulation. I want to see the same value(0.20) at baseline.
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Or it could look in this way:
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Last edited by vitalker; 02-01-2017 at 11:19 AM.
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06-26-2016, 11:34 AM
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I'll second that. It really makes more sense as a default than what happens now.
Would be even cooler if that slider could tell us the actual value of the parameter it adjusts, and/or if we could put it in some kind of learn mode where adjusting the plugin parameter adjusts the slider in PM.
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06-26-2016, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
Would be even cooler if that slider could tell us the actual value of the parameter it adjusts, and/or if we could put it in some kind of learn mode where adjusting the plugin parameter adjusts the slider in PM.
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Yep. It would be awesome too! +1
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06-28-2016, 04:57 AM
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It could look in this way:
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07-03-2016, 04:06 AM
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Bump!
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07-03-2016, 05:30 AM
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You can activate fx parameter envelope, envelope will override baseline value.
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07-03-2016, 06:01 AM
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^ can you elaborate? I think that's quite different from what OP is asking for.
Btw totally agree I was just thinking this the other day. If nothing else, when you start applying parameter modulation even if it doesn't continue to follow the value of the knob (Since I don't think it can... parameter modulation affects the knob so you cannot move it while its doing that because its a feedback loop) but it should at least start out in the same position. Doesn't make sense for it to move and change the sound (not to mention this is possibly dangerous as it could produce loud noises - a big NO in any audio application).
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07-03-2016, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fergler
Btw totally agree I was just thinking this the other day.
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What is your verdict? Well, I mean that when you enable Parameter modulation, it should start from the current parameter value, not the center. It would be better to have tick or something else to enable it and use current value. It makes sense for me.
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07-03-2016, 07:12 AM
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An issue I always have had with most hardware with bcd encoders on it.
Bloody things have to be told here they are by whatever they are supposed to be controlling.
My old A&H auto desk was sort of nice in that it automatically caught the existing value as you reached it, up or down, but that was in the 1990s - surely there must be a way to do this right twenty years on?
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07-03-2016, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ivansc
An issue I always have had with most hardware with bcd encoders on it...
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So would you like to see this feature in Reaper?
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07-03-2016, 08:56 AM
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1.Activate fx parameter envelope.
2.Enable fx parameter modulation.
Current value will be used as baseline.
Example: https://goo.gl/Gy214N
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07-03-2016, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Embass
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It's not what I'm writing about. For example, I have a slider with a 0.20 value. I touch it with Alt-button, then go to Param->Parameter modulation. I want to see the same value(0.20) at baseline. Is it clear for you?
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07-09-2016, 06:45 AM
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Anyone?
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07-09-2016, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vitalker
So would you like to see this feature in Reaper?
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Sorry - I assumed you would realise that from what I said.
YES.
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07-09-2016, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ivansc
Sorry - I assumed you would realise that from what I said.
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Well, I've understood, although it's better to see Your "yes" in a formal way.
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07-09-2016, 07:12 AM
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To summarize, people need it, but they don't understand what I've been writing about. Who could help me and translate it into "good" English?
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07-09-2016, 08:42 AM
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The solution to this I guess is to temporarily disable the parameter modulation while the user moves the knob, and this knob movement rewrites the value of the Baseline slider. When the user releases the knob, parameter modulation returns.
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07-09-2016, 09:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler
...When the user releases the knob, parameter modulation returns.
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It doesn't work for me.
Ok, I should specify what I want. We have a slider, for example, with a 0.20 value. When I enable Audio modulation or any other kind of modulation, the Baseline has 0.5 value. What about adding a tick(or something similar) to copy/use the current value, so the baseline value will be 0.2 with a tick or 0.5 without it(like on the screenshots).
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07-13-2016, 01:57 AM
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Bump.
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07-13-2016, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
It doesn't work for me.
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Pretty sure Fergler was describing a possible change that would get us what we want, not a way to do it now.
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07-13-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
Pretty sure Fergler was describing a possible change that would get us what we want, not a way to do it now.
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Ok, sorry. It wasn't clear enough for me. Now I understand what did he mean. Well, it should be the second way to implement it.
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11-21-2016, 04:51 AM
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Happy bumping
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11-21-2016, 10:18 AM
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I just the other day was looking through the guide and found the thing that Embass was talking about, which is actually pretty close - even better really in a lot of ways.
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11-21-2016, 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
I just the other day was looking through the guide and found the thing that Embass was talking about, which is actually pretty close - even better really in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, thanks. It's good, but it needs a lot of moves instead of just get it by default.
Cheers.
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11-21-2016, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
Yeah, thanks. It's good, but it needs a lot of moves instead of just get it by default.
Cheers.
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Actually, if you're set up to add new envelopes for any parameter you touch, it's no more moves. Wiggle the thing, it makes an envelope, open PM and go.
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11-21-2016, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
Actually, if you're set up to add new envelopes for any parameter you touch, it's no more moves. Wiggle the thing, it makes an envelope, open PM and go.
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Well, it will pollute the whole process, but thanks for the tip
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11-24-2016, 02:41 PM
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DEFINITELY YES
and we'd like much more scripting possibilities regarding parameter modulation...
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02-01-2017, 11:18 AM
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Or it can be like this:
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02-02-2017, 09:24 AM
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Anyone?
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02-02-2017, 09:39 AM
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I really hope so. There's more than just a UI reason to do this. There's also an audio safety reason. Enabling parameter modulation should not move the knob because we don't know what that knob can do. It could, for example, be 'limiter ceiling', where increasing the knob lowers the ceiling. I realize these kind of things are less common but it's still possible. The result would be increasing the overall gain of the signal A LOT of the user isn't thinking ahead that way. Any jumps in volume should always be avoided by design.
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02-02-2017, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler
It could, for example, be 'limiter ceiling', where increasing the knob lowers the ceiling.
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Agree with you absolutely!
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12-04-2017, 01:13 PM
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Please please plase, add it. It is really useful thing.
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03-04-2018, 05:12 AM
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Holiday bump
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03-07-2018, 03:55 PM
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Hi Vitalker
I'm gathering all parameter modulation feature requests in one thread.
I've added yours too.
Preferences Option:
Use current value as baseline value.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=182088
Give that a Holiday bump too
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03-12-2018, 07:57 AM
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Any chance for implementing the feature in 5.78?
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07-19-2018, 12:55 AM
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Sounds useful +1
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