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Old 03-17-2021, 03:21 PM   #1
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v6.25+dev0317 - March 17 2021
  • * Includes feature branch: media item channel mapping
  • * Includes branch: ReaSurround2
  • + Actions: action to insert or extend MIDI item does not skip existing looped MIDI items [t=250900]
  • + Color theme: add theme color for track lane add area
  • + Media item lanes: auto-arrange overlapping media items when switching a track to fixed lane view
  • + Media item lanes: automatically set fixed track lanes if needed when recording new items and preference set to create new items for overlapping recording
  • + Media item lanes: for fixed lane tracks, apply item mix behavior (enclosed items replace enclosing items, or items always replace earlier items) only for items in the same lane
  • + Media item lanes: increase track item lanes by dragging items into a band at the bottom of the track
  • + Media item lanes: remove option to automatically show overlapping items in lanes
  • + Media item lanes: track items lanes decrease automatically
  • + Mute automation: fix potential hang with empty automation item [t=250949]
  • + Options: add option to auto-crossfade media items in different lanes
  • + Razor edit: action to crossfade items at time selection acts on razor edits if they exist
  • + Razor edit: fix stretching automation items across tempo changes when razor edit area does not match automation item length [p=2418894]
  • + Recording: respect option to always add takes to new recording when looping
  • # Media item lanes: add preference to enable fixed item lanes for new tracks
  • # ReaSurroundPan: don't reset touch automation while mouse-editing inputs, even if the mouse is stationary for a while
  • # ReaSurroundPan: fix potentially incorrect pan calculations in certain situations
  • # ReaSurroundPan: prevent UI refresh flooding
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v6.25+dev0317 - March 17 2021[*]+ Media item lanes: increase track item lanes by dragging items into a band at the bottom of the track
OMG amazing update!!!! You rock big time devs! Huge thanks
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Wow, this is AWESOME!
Just two suggestions:
- enabling fixed item lanes shouldn't show second lane
- it is not possible to draw item on a new lane, only moving it to the new lane. Should work like with automation items.

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+ Media item lanes: remove option to automatically show overlapping items in lanes
Oh no, this option was good, especially when track contains non-overlapping items and they take the whole track height, not only one lane.
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+ Razor edit: action to crossfade items at time selection acts on razor edits if they exist
Would be also cool to have action/mouse modifier/razor edit hot zone to expand Razor Edit to both top and bottom tracks like Time selection.
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+ Color theme: add theme color for track lane add area

This is cool, i think it would also be nice if we could see the line of each lane as an indication to know where it is. Ideally with a preference to change color from theme tweaker.


Having many lanes, there is some space between some of the items. Actually i think it would be nice if the items weren't so close together when we have many lanes. Some space in between would be useful to separate them



I love this update
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Oh no, this option was good, especially when track contains non-overlapping items and they take the whole track height, not only one lane.
I think it's still an option but secondary to the new one. Have a look in options menu

I think it's there kind of. Give it a go and if it isn't then we might need it back I guess.
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Wow, this is AWESOME!

- it is not possible to draw item on a new lane, only moving it to the new lane. Should work like with automation items.
Definitely!
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I think when we move or copy from track to track and they both have fixed lanes, it should update automatically their number.
In the gif below both tracks have fixed lanes, but it doesn't update the lanes number of the second track to 4 when i drop the items

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# ReaSurroundPan: prevent UI refresh flooding

Seems to be fixed for me so far thanks!
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I think when we move or copy from track to track and they both have fixed lanes, it should update automatically their number.
In the gif below both tracks have fixed lanes, but it doesn't update the lanes number of the second track to 4 when i drop the items
Yeah.

I think I'm warming to this but at the same time. The option to choose amount of fixed lanes means you can have a certain organisation going on in those lanes and then drag copy it to another track with the same amount of tracks and retain the same positions.

We have kind of lost that now and kind of doesn't give all the choices.

What about keeping the fixed lane actions in the background so we can increase/decrease lanes without it automatically shrinking? (or maybe there's an option for that now, will check)
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Oh no, this option was good, especially when track contains non-overlapping items and they take the whole track height, not only one lane.
I think this is correct, because this is the confusion
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Either this option should be available not globally, only for individual tracks (instead of new items lanes)
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Having the lanes fixed, it creates two lanes instead of one, even without items.
When i draw a new item on first lane and then move it, the bottom lane dissapears, until i repeat the same process again.

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[*]+ Options: add option to auto-crossfade media items in different lanes

Excellent, so glad to read this!
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New midi items are being created strangely again

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Dragging an item to create a new track or even to another track and then back to "track lane adder" of the first track, creates an extra lane.

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+ Media item lanes: for fixed lane tracks, apply item mix behavior (enclosed items replace enclosing items, or items always replace earlier items) only for items in the same lane

I don't want to repeat the same suggestions, but since this came across, it would be really really nice if a new option was added that would mute the overlapping parts of the items on lanes automatically. I will drop this one last time

*The parts with the color are audible, while the darker parts are muted
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+ Media item lanes: for fixed lane tracks, apply item mix behavior (enclosed items replace enclosing items, or items always replace earlier items) only for items in the same lane

I don't want to repeat the same suggestions, but since this came across, it would be really really nice if a new option was added that would mute the overlapping parts of the items on lanes automatically. I will drop this one last time

*The parts with the color are audible, while the darker parts are muted
https://i.imgur.com/hZQ2lsA.gif
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Or: The item(s) with lowest position in the track takes precedent over all items above
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Great additions here.

The issue with "Hide buttons when take height is less than ... pixels" with "fixed items line" seems to be corrected with "fixed item lines" but the issue remains with "free item positioning":

The issue in details:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...31&postcount=2


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+ Media item lanes: remove option to automatically show overlapping items in lanes
"Fixed items lines" is a great and intelligent option (and the new lane is beautiful) but is it possible to put back "item lane auto", please?

With "item lane auto" option, there are lots of advantages:

- with auto, items which are not overlapped on different item lanes have a big size (more visibility, so). Now they can be very little.



- with auto, when the track is tiny, we can handle items among item lanes. Now if we want to handle item, we have to work with a minimum track height. So, sometimes we have to resize the track.

- with auto, it can be faster to simple put the item over an other item to create a new item lane. Now, we have to put the item on a tiny lane. More fastidious, so.


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v6.25+dev0317 - March 17 2021
  • + Options: add option to auto-crossfade media items in different lanes
Thank! Is it possible to auto-crossfade recorded overlapped items in lanes immediately after stopping recording? This is a pretty useful feature that will save users from additional manual work.

Hmm. Right now I cannot find the setting for the limit of maximum number of lanes. This one was handy.

And, looks like "Options: Show all takes in lanes (when room)" 40435 action don't working anymore?

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I would expect that if i use close button, nothing would be done. Instead reaper assumes i want to import to single track.

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v6.25+dev0317 - March 17 2021[*]+ Media item lanes: increase track item lanes by dragging items into a band at the bottom of the track
Now that we have this place holder, some thoughts:

1) some glitches still around increasing and decreasing lanes by dropping here, i am sure you know about them or soon will be identified

2) Maybe the band could be bigger .. same size of a lane.

3) when selecting multiple items from ANYWHERE (multiple tracks, ME) maybe we could assume everything will fit into that track lanes?

4) if you welcome what is described in 3) with current reaper behaviour of committing while dragging the UI will be flashing with items commited to different tracks when we want drag over the new band and so a not commit anything until mouse release would make UI/UX/audition cleaner - like for RE/AI dragging see gif:



I guess 4) is a very core thing but is a life time reaper UX enhancement.
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With "item lane auto" option, there are lots of advantages:
Auto could be a new FIP. No?

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I think it's still an option but secondary to the new one. Have a look in options menu

I think it's there kind of. Give it a go and if it isn't then we might need it back I guess.
Sorry, but can't find it. Any tips?
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It will make sense to show overlapping items in different lanes automatically, so even after moving it to other track and back it should show all the lanes.


I think also will be WYSIWYG design to increase number of lanes (if fixed item lanes are enabled) on the track where we move the items. Currently it will collapse them. When I try to move items to other track with fixed lanes, I try to move them back, but it is successful in so few tries.

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And, looks like "Options: Show all takes in lanes (when room)" 40435 action don't working anymore?
Takes are not ITEMS, you misunderstood. Takes are parts of ONE item.
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I would expect that if i use close button, nothing would be done. Instead reaper assumes i want to import to single track.
But you already pasted it. Why should it cancel pasting? You're pasting item to one track, that's why it is pasted to one track. This is an option dialog, not a dialog to allow/disallow pasting.
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Auto could be a new FIP. No?
We had showing overlapped items in different lanes for ages. It is not the same as FIPM. Just try it out for yourself first and then write these comments.
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Thank! Is it possible to auto-crossfade recorded overlapped items in lanes immediately after stopping recording?
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Also for "conventional takes" mode (splits items and creates new takes)
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[*]# Media item lanes: add preference to enable fixed item lanes for new tracks
Thanks! Great way to handle this via toggle action "Track properties: Fixed item lanes".
Out of curiosity: what does "Track properties: Set fixed item lanes" do? Seems to not do anything at all on tracks with and without lanes...

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Nice! But what if you have 3 overlapping items and want to auto-crossfade a further one with only 2 of them?
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Oh and peaks are still appearing/disappearing with item heights changing for various reasons (the add lane area being one of them now):



I know it depends on a lot of things how high the item is (and thus if peaks are drawn) but it would be appreciated if you devs could come up with a solution so once peaks are hidden they don't appear again if the item changes height for trivial reasons (like name not being drawn above item, add lane area disappearing, lanes collapsing etc..).
Don't know how this could be solved in a not over-complicated manner but maybe you devs can come up with something smart for this issue.
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Is it possible to add a preference to hide track lane add area when height is less than X pixels?

It would be useful when we work with small track height so we could still be able to drag n drop to add new lanes.

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Is it possible to add a preference to hide track lane add area when height is less than X pixels?

It would be useful when we work with small track height so we could still be able to drag n drop to add new lanes.
If you hide that area, how could you add new lanes then?
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Out of curiosity: what does "Track properties: Set fixed item lanes" do? Seems to not do anything at all on tracks with and without lanes...
Seems to show the fixed lanes, while fixed item lanes is to toggle show/hide them
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If you hide that area, how could you add new lanes then?
Yeah i mean it should not be hidden on that track height, but give us a preference like "hide labels or buttons" to choose in which track height it gets hidden

Then we could create new lanes even at the smallest track height
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Yeah i mean it should not be hidden on that track height, but give us a preference like "hide labels or buttons" to choose in which track height it gets hidden

Then we could create new lanes even at the smallest track height
Hm, your previous comment wasn't about hiding labels and buttons. I am not sure I follow your words.
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