Old 05-22-2013, 06:34 PM   #1
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Default One EQ, Compressor, Reverb?

Got an email from Recording Revolution that suggested all you need is one good eq, compressor and reverb to mix.

Got me thinking, i know its hard but its purely hypothetical, if you had to restrict yourself to just one of each, what would you choose?

So, for me, it would probablly be ReaEQ, Tokyo Dawn FB Comp 2 and Nebula with the VNXT EMT140 library.

You?


edit : Theres a mix-off thread based on this idea over here now...

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=123907

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Old 05-22-2013, 06:44 PM   #2
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EQuality

ReaComp (because a character compressor can't be used on everything)

ReaVerb with 3rd party IRs
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:45 PM   #3
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FabFilter Pro-Q, FabFilter Pro-C and Knufinke SIR2.

This isn't a big stretch for me as I use very few plugins in any case. I could easily get by with just these.
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I could get by with ReaEq and ReaXComp but picking one reverb is tough. Maybe Valhalla Room.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:49 PM   #5
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Got that email too. For me it's ReaEQ, Thrillseeker LA and Valhalla V3
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:53 PM   #6
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With REAPER parameter modulation, routing and item envelopes you can produce quite a few effects with NO plugins.

ReaEQ, ReaComp, and ReaVerb with my cabinet and reverb IR collection.

(Without the IR collection I would subsitute ReaVerb with ReaDelay)
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... picking one reverb is tough.
Amen!

I'll be happy with ReaEQ and FReaComp - both "go to" plugs for me.

Twist my arm on reverb and I'd go with Melda Mverb.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:47 PM   #8
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I'm actually at that point

EQ: 3 band on the A&H desk
Compressor: ART Pro VLA
Reverb: Room Mic (sometimes stairwell mic)

gotta say I'm actually enjoying the lack of options
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Waves H-EQ
The Glue
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Now, if I have a whole day to finish a mix then I'd only use Nebula. Today I had the pleasure
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:41 AM   #10
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ReaEQ and ReaComp. 95% of the time I need EQ or comp I go for these. They're simple, efficient and have functions other free plugins always don't. I'm so used to them, it feels like a useless pain to deal with others :P

I don't care much for reverbs, Guitar Rig has a bunch so I'm not that attached to just one. Little Reflektor maybe?
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:19 AM   #11
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ReaEQ,ReaComp,and Valhalla Room here.

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Old 05-23-2013, 04:30 AM   #12
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Hard one...i have a few of each that i use all the time, and wouldnt like to cut that down to 1. 2 or 3 makes sense, but 1 is not enough i think. If i had to choose:

ReaEQ (would really miss an eq with m/s capabilities though), ReaComp and...hmmm...TC's MegaReverb i think.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:18 AM   #13
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DDMF IIEQ pro (Just because i prefer the UI to ReaEQ, they sound exactly the same)
Some compressor from SKnote (I don't use compressors that much, never found them to be completely needed YMMV)
Not sure on reverb, the best sounding one i have is again SKnote (Stagepsace) but it is sooooo CPU intensive that i am not sure you could have it as your only reverb, if he sorts that out then yes.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:54 AM   #14
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UAD Harrison Eq
Waves RenComp
Valhalla Vintage Verb


Of all of them the compressors would be the toughest to give up for me because I love different flavors of compressors. Not having an SSL Buss comp would make me cry a little. I would choose Lexicon PCM Native over Valhalla but it's not technically one reverb so I went with the Vintage Verb which I like also.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:00 AM   #15
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:22 AM   #16
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IIEQ pro - I think it sounds better than ReaEQ especially on treble boosts when using the analog filter. I also like the many different filters to choose from and the the abilty to solo the band.

TDR FB comp 2 (although i am seriously tempted to get the Klanghelm DC8C because of its versatility and sound quality for a low price. It might be the best swiss army comp out there with all due respect to Reacomp)

Valhalla room

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Old 05-23-2013, 07:45 AM   #17
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Vee3 for reverb.

I can do without EQ and compressor just fine. Where problems need to be fixed I prefer to adress them at the root of the issue anyway (rather than its symptoms) with changes to the orchestration (tweaking synth patches) / arrangement (e.g. where notes are too soft or loud, I prefer to adjust the velocities of notes and/or volume envelopes of the instruments). (I typically don't use recordings of audio, which of course is quite a different scenario, where I probably couldn't do very well without EQ and compression either.)

But I'll take an excellent filter and overdrive instead, as filters also affect the frequency spectrum, and overdrive can be used to reduce dynamics where needed. UAD Moog MMF does both very well imho, so I can settle for two *effect* plug-ins, if really needed (I definitely need a good delay too, but Vee3 can even do that, it's just a bit limited in its range of delay time).
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:00 AM   #18
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:03 AM   #19
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Of all of them the compressors would be the toughest to give up for me because I love different flavors of compressors.
Did you try the DC8C? It is super-versatile.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:22 AM   #20
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The compressor is the critical one. 1st choice: UA 1176. 2nd choice Waves version of the 1176.

The reaEQ would be fine if I only used it to cut. I could build a boost by folding in another copy of the track and cutting everything except what I wanted to add.

Reverb? On the rare occasion I wanted one, just about anything. I'll be eqing it on the way in and/or out anyway.

I need a delay though! Delay + eq is how I make all my first reflections and build ambiance.
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The compressor is the critical one. 1st choice: UA 1176. [...].
Which one of the 4 (5 if counting the 'light' 1176SE version as well) different UAD 1176s do you mean?
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:39 AM   #22
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reaEQ
The Glue
Valhalla Room

Or if you wanted to make it tougher, I reckon I could do a good mix just using Fabfilter Saturn and Valhalla Room, seeing as Saturn can be used for so many different things. I might actually try that at some point
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:10 AM   #23
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EQ: DDMF IIEQPro
Comp: Cytomic the Glue (but I prefer the SSL BusCompressor hardware I own)
Reverb: D16 ToraVerb
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:14 AM   #24
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lots of ReaEq fans here :-)
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:14 AM   #25
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:31 AM   #26
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I had a dream that EQuality was/will be my main equalizer. I use ReaEQ now.

ReaComp is great. not this awesome alone.. but you can, with no pain on CPU, double this compressor to get paralell comp and L/R or M/S easy. just save some FXpresets. ReaXcomp is a heavy boy too.

Reverb, one great reverb is ReaVerb. Not this easy but not that hard to use.
latency compensation is the problem, but if u don't use it for recording and live pruposes, and combine some post EQ on the wet signal... and... of cource u know what u want. the reaverb will do the job.

We can think minimalist in software if we have a nice studio. The good preampes and mics and room etc will do 90% of the job.
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Vee3 for reverb.

I can do without EQ and compressor just fine. Where problems need to be fixed I prefer to adress them at the root of the issue anyway (rather than its symptoms) with changes to the orchestration (tweaking synth patches) / arrangement (e.g. where notes are too soft or loud, I prefer to adjust the velocities of notes and/or volume envelopes of the instruments). (I typically don't use recordings of audio, which of course is quite a different scenario, where I probably couldn't do very well without EQ and compression either.)
That's my case. Almost all live audio all the time. I can't live without an EQ, although just a couple of well placed parametric cuts is usually all I need to clean up signal to something useable. Blue Cat's Triple EQ is my go to model, but I'm not adverse to using others, and I could probably just get by with just that.

I've never found a digital verb I liked. It's something I tolerate. The TAL-Togu Reverb II is the one I've found that sucks the least, so that's what I generally use.

Compressors is where I get all giddy. ReaComp is great, but there are ton of good ones out there, depending on whether you want to compressor to color the tone or not. The Molot compressor probably sits at the far end of that extreme. It's got some great tone, but it's anything other than transparent. If I want to be gentle, I usually just use the Apple AU MultiBandCompressor.

The Melda stuff discussed in that other thread looks pretty tasty, but I've got limited experience with it.
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If I had to choose,
EQuality, Renaissance Compressor and Aether.

But who's going to make me ?
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Most of the time I use EQuilibrium, Compassion and ValhallaRoom anyway. =)
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Did you try the DC8C? It is super-versatile.
any link? google cannot find it.
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It can't? Odd - here (Switzerland) it can...


http://www.klanghelm.com/DC8C.html
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ahh those thing. thanks. saw that also in another usa based forum few weeks ago, but now I read also the text.... negative ratio.... thats what I need sometimes. will check this out. =)
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never mind...

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Klanghelm DC8C. Wonderful comp!
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  1. ReaEQ. It's great.

  2. IL Maximus

    It came with FL, and I used it a bit in there, shallowly, and promptly forgot about it when I stopped using FL so much. Time passed, and I was shopping for a multi-band compressor/limiter, and I remembered that Maximus's VST version had been included in the bundle I bought (which hadn't been the case with a few other "included" products).

    So, in the spirit of exhausting what I already owned before buying more, I installed it and started experimenting with it again. Long story short, I fscking love Maximus! As a workhorse track compressor, all the way to a mastering limiter, I just seem to be able to get better results faster with it.

    I love its sound, its UI, its analysis displays, its looks. And its drawable compression curve is ridiculously powerful. IL used the same X/Y graph widget that they use for a lot of their stuff, meaning that the compression curve's menu includes such absurd entries as "Create sequence"(!), "Analyze audio file", "Scale/Normalize levels" and "Decimate points". Waaaat. Talk about code re-use! I love it.

  3. Reverb

    I've never loved a reverb plugin. Convolution reverbs can sound great, but are more or less untweakable, and require auditioning endless IRs. And no algorithmic reverb plug ever did it for me. At least until now.

    On the strength of their showing in this thread, I downloaded Valhalla Room and Vintage, and I'm really impressed. They both sound amazing. They're a joy to tweak. You can dial in great sounds quickly. And the smoothing is a rarity, and something I've missed in other plugs, meaning click-free automation and huge sound design potential. You can tell this guy cares deeply about DSP. And I love the simple, distinctive UIs.

    But if I had to choose one of those, probably Vintage, based on first impression.
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You lucky man!! You mean someone was actually ok paying you for your time to use Nebula on their mix? Amen to that person!
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IL Maximus

It came with FL, and I used it a bit in there, shallowly, and promptly forgot about it when I stopped using FL so much. Time passed, and I was shopping for a multi-band compressor/limiter, and I remembered that Maximus's VST version had been included in the bundle I bought (which hadn't been the case with a few other "included" products).

So, in the spirit of exhausting what I already owned before buying more, I installed it and started experimenting with it again. Long story short, I fscking love Maximus! As a workhorse track compressor, all the way to a mastering limiter, I just seem to be able to get better results faster with it.

I love its sound, its UI, its analysis displays, its looks. And its drawable compression curve is ridiculously powerful. IL used the same X/Y graph widget that they use for a lot of their stuff, meaning that the compression curve's menu includes such absurd entries as "Create sequence"(!), "Analyze audio file", "Scale/Normalize levels" and "Decimate points". Waaaat. Talk about code re-use! I love it.
I love Maximus, too, and if I could choose only one compressor, that would probably be it. I find it very quick and easy to work with, and it can be as transparent as you want.

For EQ, I like IL's Parametric EQ 2, but probably use ReaEQ as often.

For vocal tracks, though, I still prefer Voxengo's Voxformer for both EQ & Compressor.

Reverbs are harder for me. I'll have to think which I would go with if it could only be one.

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