Same FXID in plugins when duplicating tracks (FIXED)

heda · 04-16-2016, 04:09 AM

Fixed in 5.24

Quote:

v5.24pre13 - August 26 2016
+ API: copy/paste, duplicate tracks generates new GUIDs for items, takes, and FX [t=175672]

yay! thanks Justin!

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I think this is a bug. (5.18)

When you duplicate a track with the "Duplicate tracks" action, the FXIDs of the plugins, if they have, remain the same. You can see it in the RPP file, or via API.
When you copy an FX manually from one track to another track, dragging it for example, the plugin gets a new FXID. This is the way it should be when duplicating tracks too.

Edgemeal · 04-16-2016, 09:16 PM

Total newb here, but fwiw using Guitar Rig 5 (free) to test FX I see the same results in v5.17-x64 RPP file.
The dup'd tracks have same FXID, but dragged FX to new tracks each have different FXID.

Does having same FXID cause problems/bug?

heda · 05-08-2016, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Total newb here, but fwiw using Guitar Rig 5 (free) to test FX I see the same results in v5.17-x64 RPP file.
The dup'd tracks have same FXID, but dragged FX to new tracks each have different FXID.

Does having same FXID cause problems/bug?

Thanks, yes it causes problems when scripting for example. Each plugin should have a unique FXID. For a regular user that does not use FXID, it may not be a problem.

heda · 08-26-2016, 09:05 AM

Bump. Please devs have a look at it. I think it is a big bug.

I think fx should only have the same FXID if they would be like instances, like pooled FX plugins. But we don't have pooled fx so, duplicating tracks should give new FXIDs to the plugins on the duplicated track.
Or maybe leave FXID, but create a new FXID type that is unique per plugin instance.

Thanks

Jae.Thomas · 08-26-2016, 09:09 AM

oh, wow. Yeah...

you know what tho?

Keeping hte FXid... could that enable some way of controlling 2 at the same time!??!!?

heda · 08-26-2016, 11:05 AM

Yes Jason. Then there should be another way to tell REAPER I want these plugins to be "pooled".. not by duplicating a track.
The idea of pooled plugins is cool, and I'm sure devs can do it. Althoughm if they haven't done them yet, maybe there is a reason for it. Maybe they can add a new ID like POOLID or something for that purpose. In the meantime. I expect FXID to be unique per each plugin in all cases.

Justin · 08-26-2016, 12:04 PM

This is the same for item GUIDs and take GUIDs and also when copy/pasting tracks.

08-26-2016, 09:05 AM	#4
heda Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 7,370	Bump. Please devs have a look at it. I think it is a big bug. I think fx should only have the same FXID if they would be like instances, like pooled FX plugins. But we don't have pooled fx so, duplicating tracks should give new FXIDs to the plugins on the duplicated track. Or maybe leave FXID, but create a new FXID type that is unique per plugin instance. Thanks __________________ HeDaScripts for REAPER - HeDaScripts discord chat support

08-26-2016, 11:05 AM	#6
heda Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 7,370	Yes Jason. Then there should be another way to tell REAPER I want these plugins to be "pooled".. not by duplicating a track. The idea of pooled plugins is cool, and I'm sure devs can do it. Althoughm if they haven't done them yet, maybe there is a reason for it. Maybe they can add a new ID like POOLID or something for that purpose. In the meantime. I expect FXID to be unique per each plugin in all cases. __________________ HeDaScripts for REAPER - HeDaScripts discord chat support

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04-16-2016, 09:16 PM	#2
Edgemeal Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: ASU`ogacihC Posts: 4,138	Total newb here, but fwiw using Guitar Rig 5 (free) to test FX I see the same results in v5.17-x64 RPP file. The dup'd tracks have same FXID, but dragged FX to new tracks each have different FXID. Does having same FXID cause problems/bug?

08-26-2016, 09:09 AM	#5
Jae.Thomas Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 22,635	oh, wow. Yeah... you know what tho? Keeping hte FXid... could that enable some way of controlling 2 at the same time!??!!?

08-26-2016, 12:04 PM	#7
Justin Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 16,117	This is the same for item GUIDs and take GUIDs and also when copy/pasting tracks.