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Old 10-13-2017, 02:36 AM   #1
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Default [WIP] JRENG! :: METRIC v5 - an experimental theme

M E T R I C is heavily inspired by futuristic HUD (head-up display) from a science fiction movie. Build specifically @2x scale with WALTER currently experimental functionality for HiDPI and Retina monitors.

Metric is probably the darkest color themes for REAPER, ever–it's really really...really dark. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, especially who had a fainted heart (or eyes). Its experimental user interface designed for fellas who brave and love to work on the edge of their creativity.

As you might notice Metric shared similar design approach with The Great House of White Tie : Imperial. For years working with REAPER, Imperial have been my default theme. Its ingenious fusion between beauty and functionality has shaped the way i work with REAPER.

Metric even borrow a small number of Imperial's logical lines of code (with slight modification) to achieve its maximum user experience. Kudos to Sir White Tie!


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Metric designed for large resolution monitor. But since stretching is unavoidable, it will try not to squeeze any element as possible, at least it will hide them piece by piece.


Transport


Mixer Panel


Utilising Sir White Tie's innovative imageshift macro from Imperial v5 snapshot build, mixer fader could have different state conditionally following the track's record arm state.




Metric designed with layout efficiency in mind. Without having the need to switch to a dedicated layout with big meters, when the tracks are armed–both TCP and MCP meters automatically enlarge to a significant dimension to monitor recording level visually with ease–while temporarily hide other track controls which may not be needed while recording.


Track Panel


MIDI Editor


Media item buttons is one of REAPER unique feature which has high functionality value. Metric respect this feature by adding slightly larger and offset media item buttons with the purpose of easiness to look and click without creating the possibility of visual excessiveness.


Offset Media Item buttons


TO-DO
  • TCP & MCP layout for BUSS (folder).


  • TCP & MCP layout for AUX (FX rack).
  • TCP & MCP layout for BIG METERS and minimal controls.


  • TCP & MCP layout for VCA.
  • TCP & MCP layout for Video (or other media).
  • Slim MCP layout (for large project with numerous amount of tracks).
  • Perhaps, analog side of METRIC for all above... we'll see

Any thoughts and ideas to make this theme better?

Comments are welcome and critics are appreciated.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:55 AM   #2
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It looks very good !
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really impressive!!! looking forward to this..
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:02 AM   #4
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Wow. Great theme! Keep it up!
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Utilising Sir White Tie's innovative imageshift macro from Imperial v5 snapshot build, mixer fader could have different state conditionally following the track's record arm state.
(wipes tear from eye) At last, thank you. Magnificent.

Post a WIP. Screenshots and mockups are for kiddies and tyre-kickers
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:31 AM   #6
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Yes, please do. I'm itching to see this on my 43" 4K ...
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:15 AM   #7
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Great ideas, but unfortunately not eye friendly. i think you should works on contrast.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:46 AM   #8
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unfortunately not eye friendly.
You can't judge that from some resized screenshots. Let the man work.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:23 AM   #9
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It's pretty clear that a lot of work has gone into this. Looks very nice so far.
I agree with Mr. White Tie about posting a WIP too.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:31 PM   #10
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Wow. Awesome to say the least. Sci-fi theme is right up my alley and Oblivion is one of my favorite movies. Does the theme work for non 4k monitors?
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:52 PM   #11
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ShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhT. This looks amazing!!! Finally something that doesn't make Reaper look/feel like a toy (forgive me all, I honestly don't want to hurt your feelings).

In my 55" 4k TV screen looks so sweet is maddening not having this already
in my hands.

Place a donate button for this. I am salivating sooo bad.
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:15 PM   #12
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Looks awesome. Will there be a side-fx layout for the MCP?
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:48 AM   #13
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Oh, hello there, new theme!

You look pretty nice.
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:56 AM   #14
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May I suggest finding a way to integrate the colours of the different automation modes in to your MCP and TCP design. Perhaps localized to the area you assign to the automation state display, but perhaps even more.

This is looking mighty interesting. Thank you for sharing.
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Stunning!
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Wow, that looks really good. Great work!
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:27 PM   #17
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Whoa, this looks really awesome. I think I might forget I'm making music and think I'm flying a spaceship if I use this.
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:29 AM   #18
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This is so amazing theme ! Looking forward to see it on the Stash ...
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That IS pretty dark! Sleek look, but I wonder if a liiiiiitle bit more contrast would actually help it more (particularly in the MIDI editor, the white/black key rows could use some more differentiation).
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Just a comment

This theme has the same problem as Imperial

The transport bar is WAY TOO LARGE compare to the toolbars

Transport is almost useless in REAPER since we can use keyshortcut or mouse mod to trigger basic transport and navigating task

a lot of space lost ihmo
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Different strokes for different folks. I hate using a keyboard if I don't have to.
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:11 AM   #22
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I have this now as my desktop Wallpaper. I hope you make it 4k compatible. MCP image set as Fit in a 1920 resolution screen, makes this look with what I think the appropriate size of anything on the theme (track size, buttons size, etc).
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(wipes tear from eye) At last, thank you. Magnificent.
Thank you. I really fancy your works. Kudos to you Sir!

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Post a WIP.
Done.
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I hope you make it 4k compatible.
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Does the theme work for non 4k monitors?
Why not? I design this on my 15" MBP Retina. It also works well on my 27" iMac 5K
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May I suggest finding a way to integrate the colours of the different automation modes in to your MCP and TCP design. Perhaps localized to the area you assign to the automation state display, but perhaps even more.
Sure.



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The transport bar is WAY TOO LARGE compare to the toolbars

Transport is almost useless in REAPER since we can use keyshortcut or mouse mod to trigger basic transport and navigating task
I love BIG transport.

It's big not for the mouse, but for the eyes.

I also rarely interact directly with its buttons. But visually it tells a bunch of information/status about what currently happened, IMHO much more important than toolbars which are just limited to specific actions.

If it takes too much space, just hide it
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Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. #1 post updated.
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This is beautiful. A true work of art.

The attached is a full screen image with a project loaded. Everything is HUGE - this is on a 4K display with 100%/1:1 scaling. It's like everything is double the size it should be.

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Wow! Really impressive theme. It may be my new favourite.
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I'm away from Stu. I have not checked this build on my (iMac with) larger screen.

Did you change the extmixer position? It looks off on your screenshot.
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I'm away from Stu. I have not checked this build on my (iMac with) larger screen.

Did you change the extmixer position? It looks off on your screenshot.
No, it's attached to the main window in that pic. BTW, this is Win10Prox64 ...

Is there another view would like me to grab for you to look at?
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No, it's attached to the main window in that pic. BTW, this is Win10Prox64 ...

Is there another view would like me to grab for you to look at?
What happen if you undock the mixer and make it full screen?

What is the resolution of your monitor?

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The display is 3840 x 2160 (43")

Here is the undocked mixer enlarged to nearly full screen



For comparison, here is the default mixer the same way

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It's an excellent theme, and the scifi vibe is spot on. Any chance of a version scaled down for 1920 wide regular resolutions when it's otherwise finished? Tried this on my Dell Ultrasharp U2412M setup, and there's no way to practically use it even on a dual 1920x1200 display setup as it's so large. But again, it's excellent, also going by the scaled down screenshots.
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The attached is a full screen image with a project loaded. Everything is HUGE - this is on a 4K display with 100%/1:1 scaling. It's like everything is double the size it should be.
That'll be why, then. As he said:

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The display is 3840 x 2160 (43")

Here is the undocked mixer enlarged to nearly full screen
What REAPER version are you using? Have you enable the HIDPI mode?
Look at this thread
Default_5.0_@2x Reaper Theme for HiDPI screens.
It is the Default_5.0 theme @2x. Which use the same experimental method as METRIC.

I have a Window machine with 1980x1200 screen at Stu. I have not tested yet.

I could only tried on WineBottler which apparently not supporting HIDPI mode. But even in a humongous scaling i could tell without choosing the HIDPI mode on REAPER the scaling is way off but similar to your screenshot.
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That'll be why, then.
Oh well. The master has spoken.
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totally cool sci fi.. reminds me of the one that was based on the star trek pads. PADD or something it was called

nicely done
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I see no difference between HiDPI unaware vs aware.

I'm using V 5.52
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What REAPER version are you using? Have you enable the HIDPI mode?
Look at this thread
Default_5.0_@2x Reaper Theme for HiDPI screens.
It is the Default_5.0 theme @2x. Which use the same experimental method as METRIC.

I have a Window machine with 1980x1200 screen at Stu. I have not tested yet.

I could only tried on WineBottler which apparently not supporting HIDPI mode. But even in a humongous scaling i could tell without choosing the HIDPI mode on REAPER the scaling is way off but similar to your screenshot.

After looking thru that thread I don't know any more about 2X or HiDPI than I did before.
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