Input FX are not delay compensated? (FIXED)

Luster · 12-18-2017, 03:00 PM

Hello,

TBH this might be a nooby question but searching for an answer doesn't brought up much and the manual also doesn't mention anything like that. My observation is that the plugin delay compensation works for me fine but not when I use delay introducing effects as input fx so they get recorded. The recorded beats always are off exactly that amount of those plugins latency. Is that correct? And why is that? I don't see a reason to not shift the recorded media at least...

Dstruct · 12-18-2017, 05:56 PM

Use record mode "Record: output".

Luster · 12-19-2017, 06:50 AM

Nope. Doesn't work. Tried both options. It looks like "latency compensated" doesn't mean plugin latency but soundcard latency. The shift is different dependent on that option but it's still the same shift as an input FX.

Dstruct · 12-19-2017, 07:41 AM

Yeah, might be a valid bug.

Justin · 12-19-2017, 07:49 AM

Yeah, we should treat input FX latency as input-delay and compensate it after the fact, doing that now.

Dstruct · 12-19-2017, 07:51 AM

Cool! Thanks Justin!

Luster · 12-19-2017, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah, we should treat input FX latency as input-delay and compensate it after the fact, doing that now.

I love you guys.

johnnynash · 12-19-2017, 03:21 PM

Thanks Justin!

Coachz · 12-19-2017, 03:24 PM

If this was Cubase it would be two years before they even thought about addressing it. Reaper is the bomb

Luster · 12-19-2017, 04:18 PM

Cubase Input channels had the same problem back when I used it (6.5) - did they fixed it by now?

Edit: Now that the fix was so quickly implemented with the upcoming version 5.71 I am asking myself why nobody asked this before. Either nobody uses this feature or nobody who uses that feature use it with latency introducing plugins or doesn't care about the groove.

12-18-2017, 03:00 PM	#1
Luster Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 642	Input FX are not delay compensated? (FIXED) Hello, TBH this might be a nooby question but searching for an answer doesn't brought up much and the manual also doesn't mention anything like that. My observation is that the plugin delay compensation works for me fine but not when I use delay introducing effects as input fx so they get recorded. The recorded beats always are off exactly that amount of those plugins latency. Is that correct? And why is that? I don't see a reason to not shift the recorded media at least... Last edited by Luster; 12-31-2017 at 01:41 AM.

12-19-2017, 04:18 PM	#10
Luster Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 642	Cubase Input channels had the same problem back when I used it (6.5) - did they fixed it by now? Edit: Now that the fix was so quickly implemented with the upcoming version 5.71 I am asking myself why nobody asked this before. Either nobody uses this feature or nobody who uses that feature use it with latency introducing plugins or doesn't care about the groove. Last edited by Luster; 12-31-2017 at 01:45 AM.

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12-18-2017, 05:56 PM	#2
Dstruct Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,524	Use record mode "Record: output".

12-19-2017, 06:50 AM	#3
Luster Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 642	Nope. Doesn't work. Tried both options. It looks like "latency compensated" doesn't mean plugin latency but soundcard latency. The shift is different dependent on that option but it's still the same shift as an input FX.

12-19-2017, 07:41 AM	#4
Dstruct Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,524	Yeah, might be a valid bug.

12-19-2017, 07:49 AM	#5
Justin Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 16,117	Yeah, we should treat input FX latency as input-delay and compensate it after the fact, doing that now.

12-19-2017, 07:51 AM	#6
Dstruct Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,524	Cool! Thanks Justin!

12-19-2017, 03:21 PM	#8
johnnynash Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 132	Thanks Justin!

12-19-2017, 03:24 PM	#9
Coachz Human being with feelings Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12,993	If this was Cubase it would be two years before they even thought about addressing it. Reaper is the bomb