Old 04-26-2019, 06:29 PM   #1
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Default MIDI touch-replace broken (FIXED)

There seems to be a problem with MIDI touch-replace. It behaves like "overdub mode". MIDI latch-replace however, seems to work fine:

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I think touch-replace refers to the note recording rather than CC recording, yeah. There's no concept of touch for CCs, so maybe that would have to be latch-replace? Or touch with a timeout?
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Old 04-28-2019, 06:37 AM   #3
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Hi Justin, I think the confusion lies in that touch is not doing the same thing as it does for regular automation. I think it should function the same way whether for track automation or midi - which is it should replace the previous events while touched. Doing it any other way is I think by definition confusing as it's not conforming to standard practice.

Perhaps I'm missing something here (I usually am...) but I can't see a scenario where you would ever want to keep two sets of CC data in the same lane. Nothing good would ever come from that.
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I think touch-replace refers to the note recording rather than CC recording, yeah. There's no concept of touch for CCs, so maybe that would have to be latch-replace? Or touch with a timeout?
Touch with a timeout would be perfect! Like, when no new CC data is received, stop replacing and keep the "old" CC.
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The current behavior is actually to replace all of the CC data when a note is down. Which may or may not be desired, hmph. And in latch mode it's also somewhat different than probably-expected: if you record any CC it overwrites all CCs on that channel until stopping. I imagine each CC type should latch/touch separately... but of course changing this could be messy.
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Oh, hmm, I see the dilemma...

Would two additional latch and touch modes for "CC only" be a solution?
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Oh, hmm, I see the dilemma...

Would two additional latch and touch modes for "CC only" be a solution?
Or maybe the current behavior isn't enjoyed by anybody and it should be fixed?
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Well, if that's an option, I'm all for it

I really liked that timer idea, if that's feasible.
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I agree that we should have a preference for touch-replace timer for CCs. The way it works now is really not useful.
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Agreed, the current behavior is not something I would ever use.
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Old 04-28-2019, 05:47 PM   #11
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Upgrades coming in the next +dev cycle!
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Amazing, thanks so much Justin!
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Thanks Justin, works mighty fine!
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Justin, there's one thing that I noticed while using this in a production:
would it be possible to differentiate between notes and CCs while recording,
so that notes don't get erased when only recording CCs?
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That would be really great, yes.
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Maybe as an option, so everyone is pleased? :P
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I don't think it needs an option really. It just makes logical sense. Only what is touched gets replaced!
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I don't think it needs an option really. It just makes logical sense. Only what is touched gets replaced!
+1. Definitely.
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Okay, go Justin, go Justin
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Hooray, added in dev514!
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