Notation editor default toolbar!

[EvilDragon]

It would be really nice to have a default notation editor toolbar. We have separate toolbars for piano roll and for event list, but notation editor is different enough that it should warrant having its own default toolbar. Using up a floating toolbar is of course possible, but why waste a toolbar on this when we could get a default one that would automatically switch when we change MIDI editor mode?

In case we do the above (use up a toolbar and make a custom action to switch to notation mode AND change toolbar, then make custom action variants for piano roll/named notes mode AND switch back to main piano roll view), then when assigning those custom actions to toolbars doesn't actually retain the pressed state of the mode you're currently in, like the regular actions are doing. Can something be done about this?



Here's the situation. If I use the custom action set of ME mode changes (on the left), they don't show the state of the ME mode we're in. The native actions of course do. The only missing link here is notation mode having its own toolbar because we could have notation-specific actions up there, rather than share some unnecessary stuff with main piano roll toolbar (like quantize/humanize, MIDI CC shapes, etc.)

A mini-suggestion here would be if any of these actions were used in a custom action:

Mode: Drum Map (40043)
Mode: Event List (40056)
Mode: Notation (40954)
Mode: Piano Roll (40042)

then the toggle state should also be inherited by the toolbar button to which that custom action is assigned!

[Masi]

Yes, please!
All MIDI editor modes deserve their own toolbar.

Masi

[futurewy]

All MIDI editor modes deserve their own toolbar.
All MIDI editor modes deserve their own toolbar.
All MIDI editor modes deserve their own toolbar.
yes!

[bFooz]

+ 1

[Vagalume]

Logical, so it won't happen,

[Pashkuli]

Originally Posted by Vagalume

Logical, so it won't happen,

More likely – low priority.
This music notation is becoming more and more obsolete anyway.

[tohubohu]

Originally Posted by Pashkuli

This music notation is becoming more and more obsolete anyway.

why?

[Pashkuli]

Originally Posted by tohubohu

why?

Because:
· old
· ambiguous
· special case derived

[tohubohu]

Originally Posted by Pashkuli

Because:
· old
· ambiguous
· special case derived

May 2016. is it old?

[Pashkuli]

Originally Posted by tohubohu

May 2016. is it old?

Nope, not the software impl. in Reaper. Rather the Notation itself (>500 years old).

[bFooz]

Originally Posted by Pashkuli

Nope, not the software impl. in Reaper. Rather the Notation itself (>500 years old).

Ok, you're the visionare :-). Until the time you envision will come, having the oldschool notation will still show itself relevant enough.

[Pashkuli]

Originally Posted by bFooz

Ok, you're the visionare :-). Until the time you envision will come, having the oldschool notation will still show itself relevant enough.

Indeed. For more info, here:
Why and how we need to evolve Music Notation

[tohubohu]

it's all the fault of gui d'arezzo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_of_Arezzo

[Pashkuli]

Originally Posted by tohubohu

it's all the fault of gui d'arezzo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_of_Arezzo

Not really. He was just a clerk, doing what most clerks do - a sloppy job. But they did not know better at that time, although the Work of Boethius was already 500 years old at that time and the work of Pythagoras more than 1000 years old at that time.

Also in Church music they used 6 notes. Anyway, it is a mess, old, obsolete and quite frankly... dumb!

[hotzmarino]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

It would be really nice to have a default notation editor toolbar...

+1
Yes, Please!!!

[hotzmarino]

Hi,
I have some other additional requests for scoring notes at

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265119

I hope this can be interesting for composers.

Have a great day!