Issue with Alt focusing the main menu and mousewheel (FIXED)

EvilDragon · 03-29-2021, 01:00 AM

Scenario:

1. Assign mousewheel up to "View: Scroll vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)"
2. Assign Alt+mousewheel up to "View: Zoom vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)"
3. Make sure Preferences->General->Keyboard/Multitouch->[ ] Prevent ALT key from focusing main menu is disabled

Now, add a bunch of tracks, then try to Alt+mousewheel to zoom vertically. All good. But uh-oh, as soon as you releease that Alt key, main menu is focused, so you CANNOT use just the mousewheel to also scroll vertically.

This is a pretty big UX issue. If mousewheel is used right after pressing Alt, it should cancel out Alt focusing the main menu. Main menu should only focus if Alt was pressed down and released all on its own, without any other keys or mouse actions being executed while Alt is being held.

EvilDragon · 03-31-2021, 10:07 AM

Slight bump. This is really annoying

EvilDragon · 04-08-2021, 09:20 AM

Slightly harder bump

EvilDragon · 04-20-2021, 10:41 AM

I would've thought this one is easy to remedy...

Justin · 04-20-2021, 11:18 AM

Hmm yes I suppose we could make it ignore the alt mouseup if a wheel event occurred during the keydown...

EvilDragon · 04-21-2021, 04:47 AM

It seems logical, right? Thanks for considering!

vitalker · 04-23-2021, 01:46 PM

It is in the last dev.

EvilDragon · 04-24-2021, 12:15 PM

So I see. Thank you, Justin!

EvilDragon · 04-28-2021, 07:10 AM

Hummmm, I am unsure if this is actually working.

I have my mousewheel assigned to "View: Scroll vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)", and Alt+mousewheel to "View: Zoom vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)".

When using my Alt+mousewheel assignment, on Alt key up after I've done the wheelie, it still focuses the menu bar. It shouldn't, in this scenario.

Also, let's say I remove my Alt+mousewheel assignment, in this case if just doing regular mousewheel to scroll vertically, as soon as I press Alt, it doesn't continue to scroll vertically, just freezes in place. Why?

(For additional info, I have "Allow keyboard commands even when mouse-editing" enabled.)

Justin · 04-30-2021, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Also, let's say I remove my Alt+mousewheel assignment, in this case if just doing regular mousewheel to scroll vertically, as soon as I press Alt, it doesn't continue to scroll vertically, just freezes in place. Why?

Because the menubar has focus? From hitting "alt"

binbinhfr · 10-22-2021, 01:25 AM

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Hmm yes I suppose we could make it ignore the alt mouseup if a wheel event occurred during the keydown...

I also use ALT+mousewheel for zooms in the track view, and after releasing ALT after a mousewheel, the track view loses focus, and I cannot zoom anymore : I have to type ALT a second time to exit the menu bar and go back to track view.

@Justin Your solution seems to be perfect = Ignore ALT keyup after any mousewheel.

> It is in the last dev.

Really ?

03-29-2021, 01:00 AM	#1
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	Issue with Alt focusing the main menu and mousewheel (FIXED) Scenario: 1. Assign mousewheel up to "View: Scroll vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)" 2. Assign Alt+mousewheel up to "View: Zoom vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)" 3. Make sure Preferences->General->Keyboard/Multitouch->[ ] Prevent ALT key from focusing main menu is disabled Now, add a bunch of tracks, then try to Alt+mousewheel to zoom vertically. All good. But uh-oh, as soon as you releease that Alt key, main menu is focused, so you CANNOT use just the mousewheel to also scroll vertically. This is a pretty big UX issue. If mousewheel is used right after pressing Alt, it should cancel out Alt focusing the main menu. Main menu should only focus if Alt was pressed down and released all on its own, without any other keys or mouse actions being executed while Alt is being held. __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

03-31-2021, 10:07 AM	#2
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	Slight bump. This is really annoying __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

04-08-2021, 09:20 AM	#3
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	Slightly harder bump __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

04-20-2021, 10:41 AM	#4
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	I would've thought this one is easy to remedy... __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

04-21-2021, 04:47 AM	#6
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	It seems logical, right? Thanks for considering! __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

04-20-2021, 11:18 AM	#5
Justin Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 16,335	Hmm yes I suppose we could make it ignore the alt mouseup if a wheel event occurred during the keydown...

04-23-2021, 01:46 PM	#7
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04-24-2021, 12:15 PM	#8
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	So I see. Thank you, Justin! __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!

04-28-2021, 07:10 AM	#9
EvilDragon Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 24,983	Hummmm, I am unsure if this is actually working. I have my mousewheel assigned to "View: Scroll vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)", and Alt+mousewheel to "View: Zoom vertically (MIDI CC relative/mousewheel)". When using my Alt+mousewheel assignment, on Alt key up after I've done the wheelie, it still focuses the menu bar. It shouldn't, in this scenario. Also, let's say I remove my Alt+mousewheel assignment, in this case if just doing regular mousewheel to scroll vertically, as soon as I press Alt, it doesn't continue to scroll vertically, just freezes in place. Why? (For additional info, I have "Allow keyboard commands even when mouse-editing" enabled.) __________________ Entirely (un)dockable UI! \| Improve Render Queue!