MIDI recording extend previously recorded item (FIXED)

Daodan · 04-29-2021, 09:41 AM

Loop MIDI recording extend previously recorded item if that item was recorded in MIDI: Overdub mode.

How to reproduce:
-Create track and set it to MIDI: Overdub mode
-Record short midi item (item_1)
-Create time selection around item_1
-Enable repeat
-Create second track and record another midi item in time selection (item_2). Important: Don't stop recording until the end of time selection.
-Reaper extend right edge of item_1 to the end of time selection.

Expected behavior: recording one track doesn't affect items on other track.

If you glue item_1 than everything fine:

Tested in my Reaper 6.28 config and also in clean portable 6.28, 6.25, 6.12 and even 5.32🙂
----------------------
fixed in 6.55 THANKS!

Synthezx · 04-29-2021, 09:53 AM

I would like to add information on this issue.
This works great if you choose the input as: Record input (audio or midi), in which case the midi will not propagate until the end of the loop either. But i like work with "Overdub" input.

It's very complicated to write my next midi item through my midi keyboard with a loop (I work a lot with a loop)

Daodan · 05-01-2021, 04:10 PM

bump 001

Daodan · 05-03-2021, 04:28 AM

Should I post it in Dstruct's Casa De Nitpicks?

Daodan · 05-06-2021, 06:34 AM

bump.

Daodan · 05-15-2021, 04:11 AM

no one can reproduce?

Daodan · 06-10-2021, 07:39 PM

June Bump

Daodan · 07-09-2021, 01:45 PM

6.31 bump

zookthespook · 07-11-2021, 03:51 AM

confirming the issue. I have been having this since 5.xx versions

https://i.imgur.com/CnAx4BY.gif

Daodan · 09-08-2021, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zookthespook

confirming the issue. I have been having this since 5.xx versions

https://i.imgur.com/CnAx4BY.gif

Nice, thank you.

mccrabney · 09-08-2021, 08:07 AM

seems that this only happens when you've got "All MIDI inputs" selected.

i had a hard time reproducing this until i noticed that part of Daodan's original post. my default project template has each MIDI channel from my melodic controller as its own armed track, and i was unable to reproduce this issue using that setup.

mccrabney · 09-08-2021, 08:23 AM

nope, now i'm seeing the same behavior with Virtual MIDI keyboard inputs on ch 1.

maybe it's not the MIDI input, but the process of track creation? i was able to reproduce by duplicating the first recording track, disarming it, and recording on the second track...

edit, yes, that's definitely it. here, i have my default template's ch1 MIDI input track in overdub mode. i record some MIDI, disarm/duplicate the track, arm the duplicate, record in the time selection, and watch the MIDI item in the disarmed track lengthen automatically.

Daodan · 09-08-2021, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccrabney

nope, now i'm seeing the same behavior with Virtual MIDI keyboard inputs on ch 1.

maybe it's not the MIDI input, but the process of track creation? i was able to reproduce by duplicating the first recording track, disarming it, and recording on the second track...

edit, yes, that's definitely it. here, i have my default template's ch1 MIDI input track in overdub mode. i record some MIDI, disarm/duplicate the track, arm the duplicate, record in the time selection, and watch the MIDI item in the disarmed track lengthen automatically.

Thanks, Mccrabney. Idk but I create tracks with default action just by doube click in TCP. Also same happens if last recorded track not in overdub mode. Previous should be.

project attached

Daodan · 11-01-2021, 12:17 AM

Bump for 6.40

Kicks · 11-15-2021, 01:01 PM

I confirm I have this exact same bug since I use Reaper. So its here for at least 2 years.

It would be awesome to fix that because it is quiet frustrating, that prevents us to record freely. I dont know why there isnt more people complaining about it? are they using midi packs?? hihi

I checked in my Action list if i didnt change something, there is indeed an option called : loop recording always add takes to newly recorded items
But it wasnt that...

Daodan · 11-16-2021, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kicks

I dont know why there isnt more people complaining about it?

Idk. Maybe overdub mode not so popular?

Kicks · 11-19-2021, 04:50 AM

What OS are you on Daodan?

By the way, thanks for doing all the reporting and video. Im gonna help you bump the topic ahah

Daodan · 11-19-2021, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kicks

What OS are you on Daodan?

By the way, thanks for doing all the reporting and video. Im gonna help you bump the topic ahah

Thanks you! I’m on Win 10

Kicks · 11-20-2021, 07:01 AM

OK, I'm on Win7, so the bug is not OS relative

Kicks · 11-29-2021, 02:32 PM

bumb!

Kicks · 12-09-2021, 11:31 AM

bump!
reminder (as the title isnt complete) : it happens only on Midi Overdub mode

Kicks · 01-02-2022, 08:48 AM

Bump!

Kicks · 01-08-2022, 03:50 AM

Here is the result :

zookthespook · 03-02-2022, 04:21 PM

@justin frankel please fix this .
It has caused some serious damage on project s while working

Kicks · 03-12-2022, 07:19 AM

UP! this huge bug is still not fixed

Daodan · 03-12-2022, 07:47 AM

Yup

Denys · 03-12-2022, 01:51 PM

I've always had this issue and kind of got used to it to the extent that every time I record MIDI, I stop playing before the cursor goes back to the beginning of the loop. If I don't do so, it's overlap festival in my project.

But as usual, I've tweaked so many parameters in Reaper that I can't say for sure I didn't change a setting by mistale.

If it's a bug: massive +1.

zookthespook · 03-15-2022, 10:33 PM

Because of this bug , i have stopped loop recording.
Moved to reaper in 2014 , i really did miss the retrospective recording feature. I understand,reaper being the mega monster that it is , i didn't care about the small barter ,but loop recording is a core feature of Daws and electronic sequencing hardware since the 80s , let's not turn that into a barter now. There are always workarounds but non buggy loop record mode is the least one can ask for from a DAW.

schwa · 04-20-2022, 04:04 PM

Finally reproduced, fixing!

Daodan · 04-20-2022, 04:05 PM

Yay! Thank you!

Kicks · 04-29-2022, 09:38 AM

Awesome !

04-29-2021, 09:41 AM	#1
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	MIDI recording extend previously recorded item (FIXED) Loop MIDI recording extend previously recorded item if that item was recorded in MIDI: Overdub mode. How to reproduce: -Create track and set it to MIDI: Overdub mode -Record short midi item (item_1) -Create time selection around item_1 -Enable repeat -Create second track and record another midi item in time selection (item_2). Important: Don't stop recording until the end of time selection. -Reaper extend right edge of item_1 to the end of time selection. Expected behavior: recording one track doesn't affect items on other track. If you glue item_1 than everything fine: Tested in my Reaper 6.28 config and also in clean portable 6.28, 6.25, 6.12 and even 5.32🙂 ---------------------- fixed in 6.55 THANKS! Last edited by Daodan; 04-24-2022 at 08:58 AM.

04-29-2021, 09:53 AM	#2
Synthezx Human being with feelings Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 19	Same problem I would like to add information on this issue. This works great if you choose the input as: Record input (audio or midi), in which case the midi will not propagate until the end of the loop either. But i like work with "Overdub" input. It's very complicated to write my next midi item through my midi keyboard with a loop (I work a lot with a loop)

05-01-2021, 04:10 PM	#3
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Bump bump 001

05-06-2021, 06:34 AM	#5
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	bump bump.

05-15-2021, 04:11 AM	#6
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Another one bump the dust no one can reproduce?

05-03-2021, 04:28 AM	#4
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Should I post it in Dstruct's Casa De Nitpicks?

06-10-2021, 07:39 PM	#7
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	June Bump

07-09-2021, 01:45 PM	#8
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	6.31 bump

07-11-2021, 03:51 AM	#9
zookthespook Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: India Mumbai Posts: 833	confirming the issue. I have been having this since 5.xx versions https://i.imgur.com/CnAx4BY.gif

09-08-2021, 08:07 AM	#11
mccrabney Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 3,741	seems that this only happens when you've got "All MIDI inputs" selected. i had a hard time reproducing this until i noticed that part of Daodan's original post. my default project template has each MIDI channel from my melodic controller as its own armed track, and i was unable to reproduce this issue using that setup.

09-08-2021, 08:23 AM	#12
mccrabney Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 3,741	nope, now i'm seeing the same behavior with Virtual MIDI keyboard inputs on ch 1. maybe it's not the MIDI input, but the process of track creation? i was able to reproduce by duplicating the first recording track, disarming it, and recording on the second track... edit, yes, that's definitely it. here, i have my default template's ch1 MIDI input track in overdub mode. i record some MIDI, disarm/duplicate the track, arm the duplicate, record in the time selection, and watch the MIDI item in the disarmed track lengthen automatically. Last edited by mccrabney; 09-08-2021 at 08:30 AM.

11-01-2021, 12:17 AM	#14
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Bump for 6.40

11-15-2021, 01:01 PM	#15
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	I confirm I have this exact same bug since I use Reaper. So its here for at least 2 years. It would be awesome to fix that because it is quiet frustrating, that prevents us to record freely. I dont know why there isnt more people complaining about it? are they using midi packs?? hihi I checked in my Action list if i didnt change something, there is indeed an option called : loop recording always add takes to newly recorded items But it wasnt that...

11-19-2021, 04:50 AM	#17
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	What OS are you on Daodan? By the way, thanks for doing all the reporting and video. Im gonna help you bump the topic ahah

11-20-2021, 07:01 AM	#19
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	OK, I'm on Win7, so the bug is not OS relative

11-29-2021, 02:32 PM	#20
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	bumb!

12-09-2021, 11:31 AM	#21
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	bump! reminder (as the title isnt complete) : it happens only on Midi Overdub mode

01-02-2022, 08:48 AM	#22
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	Bump!

03-02-2022, 04:21 PM	#24
zookthespook Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: India Mumbai Posts: 833	@justin frankel please fix this . It has caused some serious damage on project s while working

03-12-2022, 07:19 AM	#25
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	UP! this huge bug is still not fixed

03-12-2022, 07:47 AM	#26
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Yup

03-12-2022, 01:51 PM	#27
Denys Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tokyo Posts: 358	I've always had this issue and kind of got used to it to the extent that every time I record MIDI, I stop playing before the cursor goes back to the beginning of the loop. If I don't do so, it's overlap festival in my project. But as usual, I've tweaked so many parameters in Reaper that I can't say for sure I didn't change a setting by mistale. If it's a bug: massive +1. __________________ Katabui Original Soundtrack

03-15-2022, 10:33 PM	#28
zookthespook Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: India Mumbai Posts: 833	Because of this bug , i have stopped loop recording. Moved to reaper in 2014 , i really did miss the retrospective recording feature. I understand,reaper being the mega monster that it is , i didn't care about the small barter ,but loop recording is a core feature of Daws and electronic sequencing hardware since the 80s , let's not turn that into a barter now. There are always workarounds but non buggy loop record mode is the least one can ask for from a DAW.

04-20-2022, 04:04 PM	#29
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 16,836	Finally reproduced, fixing!

04-20-2022, 04:05 PM	#30
Daodan Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,548	Yay! Thank you!

04-29-2022, 09:38 AM	#31
Kicks Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 16	Awesome !

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