This is really bad behaviour on envelopes, or i am missing something? (FIXED)

[deeb]

I want to select automation points and move them all at once, and when i try to this in one way this happens:

1) Multiple Segments are selected but just one is changing




2) in another way, The shape is altered if i drag the points to try to achieve the same




Am i missing something? :/

[Edgemeal]

Try dragging a point,

[deeb]

thank you Edgemeal, that is what i have done in second gif, i think :|


here is another (i do undo after each operation)

[mccrabney]

i can't reproduce that right now, but it looks very familiar to behavior i've experienced in the past. what are your snap settings, deeb?

edit: check this out, once i move over the halfway point to the next snappable grid line, i get that diagonal envelope curve. it looks to me like your grid is set to snap at a much smaller interval than mine, and that you have a much smaller vertical hit area over which to move your dragged envelope points?

[schwa]

This is a bug, that is triggered when vertically moving multiple sets of selected envelope points with no transition time to unselected points. Fixing for the next build, thanks for the report.

[deeb]

mccrabney. Thank you! now i see i had grid lines disabled. So it's all about Reaper odd behaviour of changing everything randomly (in user perspective).

This is terrible, i could bet this behaviour has no use for anyone, unless they want random envelopes:



I wonder:
1) What is the benefit of this automation movements? they are totally random, in a place which by it's nature is already very detailed and deep and tiring, and reaper makes them even more by making all this strange things :/
Could we have it simple? i mean - normal?

2) why Multiple Segments which are selected don't change together !
It's frustrating.

[mccrabney]

nice - thanks, schwa.

2) why Multiple Segments which are selected don't change together !

agreed here, i think that "move envelope segment / (&+ ignoring time selection)" should move all selected envelope points when multiple points are already selected.

for comparison, it's similar to selecting several audio items and pulling down 1 volume handle -- it's expected for this action to have results on all selected items.

[deeb]

^^ yes thank you schwa.

as far i am experienced this could be the default, and still it doesn't exist in reaper? i know reaper is a complex ecosystem and i don't know how you can deal with so many details .. Big big respect .. but maybe this is missing?