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Old 04-10-2022, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default LV2 plugins creating fx categories which can't be removed

When I install LV2 plugins, they'll get a generic category in my fx browser, like 'Flanger' or 'Synth'. I can't delete or rename these categories, and they don't seem to be set in any Reaper ini file.

If I go into the LV2 directory and view the source of a ttl file, I see this:


mda: Degrade
a lv2:Plugin ,
lv2: DistortionPlugin ;

If a file says DistortionPlugin, then it'll create a category called 'Distortion'. If it says lv2:FlangerPlugin, then Reaper will create a category called 'Flanger', and so on.

I don't want all these extra categories added. How do I get rid of them?
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Old 04-11-2022, 12:58 AM   #2
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When I install LV2 plugins, they'll get a generic category in my fx browser, like 'Flanger' or 'Synth'. I can't delete or rename these categories, and they don't seem to be set in any Reaper ini file.

If I go into the LV2 directory and view the source of a ttl file, I see this:


mda: Degrade
a lv2:Plugin ,
lv2: DistortionPlugin ;

If a file says DistortionPlugin, then it'll create a category called 'Distortion'. If it says lv2:FlangerPlugin, then Reaper will create a category called 'Flanger', and so on.

I don't want all these extra categories added. How do I get rid of them?
If you take a look at reaper-fxtags.ini you should see that information there.

As an aside, when remove plugins I end up with empty categories, developers etc. Solution: I delete this reaper-fxtags.ini file, rescan plugins and have a beautifully pruned set of information.

As to stopping REAPER from making these categories in the first place...I don't really know.
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Old 04-17-2022, 06:25 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply, but editing reaper-fxtags.ini did not remove any categories. The only way I am able to control the display of those categories, for LV2 plugins, is to go into the .ttl files of those plugins and remove the categorization there.

This works for now, but when I upgrade those plugins I suspect the problem will return. Sounds like maybe it's a bug. I don't know what the protocol is for this. Should I ask a mod to move this thread to the Bug Reports forum, or start a new thread?
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Thanks for the reply, but editing reaper-fxtags.ini did not remove any categories. The only way I am able to control the display of those categories, for LV2 plugins, is to go into the .ttl files of those plugins and remove the categorization there.

This works for now, but when I upgrade those plugins I suspect the problem will return. Sounds like maybe it's a bug. I don't know what the protocol is for this. Should I ask a mod to move this thread to the Bug Reports forum, or start a new thread?
This sounds like an LV2 spec standard or something. I'm not sure how you would get around it because REAPER should definitely read the ttl for those of us who are OK with the standard categories...

As you imply, this isn't a REAPER bug at all and lies firmly with the LV2 specifications, no? You do have a point that it would be good to be able to re-categorize plugins and for it to stick (as long as the plugin name doesn't change).

EDIT: Deleting that reaper-fxtags.ini file will certainly delete any old categories that are no longer in use (assuming you've changed the tags in the ttl files). I do it all the time as I install and remove plugins on a regular basis.
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Old 04-17-2022, 08:37 AM   #5
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I would say it's a bug, because you should be able to remove those categories from the left side of your FX list. Right now, it'll let you remove plugins from the created category, until you remove the last one — and then Reaper puts them all back the way they were.

You can't remove or rename these categories created by the LV2 files. I think it's OK for reaper to create the categories when it reads the plugins, but then you should be able to delete or rename the categories once they're in your FX browser.
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Old 04-17-2022, 11:08 AM   #6
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I would say it's a bug, because you should be able to remove those categories from the left side of your FX list. Right now, it'll let you remove plugins from the created category, until you remove the last one — and then Reaper puts them all back the way they were.

You can't remove or rename these categories created by the LV2 files. I think it's OK for reaper to create the categories when it reads the plugins, but then you should be able to delete or rename the categories once they're in your FX browser.
Well, if you are convinced definitely start a new thread in the appropriate place. I will note that Ardour does allow for changing the tag as you wish:
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Old 04-25-2022, 12:00 PM   #7
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Ah thanks for pointing this out, we'll add support for removing LV2-created categories in the near future!
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