Insert Space at empty time selection problem

vsthem · 06-30-2023, 11:10 AM

Hi all! Trying to add time to the beginning of the session. The time I select is 4 beats at 52BPM. For reasons I can't figure out, when I run this, it inserts 4 beats at 55BPM, throwing the entire tempo map off of the grid.

https://imgur.com/a/x6eyUxp

If I adjust the newly created 55BPM time sig to 52BPM, the whole tempo map remains off the grid

Is there something I'm missing here, or is it a bug? If it's a bug, is there a workaround?

Thanks in advance!

schwa · 06-30-2023, 11:26 AM

Can you possibly remove all tracks from that project except the master track and tempo envelope, and post it for us to look at?

vsthem · 06-30-2023, 07:30 PM

appreciate you looking at it! haven't done this before so let me know if this works.

schwa · 07-01-2023, 05:29 AM

Thanks for sharing the project. It should work the way you expect if you go to File/Project Settings and set the project tempo to 52 rather than 55.

When inserting space before the initial tempo marker, the project tempo is used rather than the initial tempo marker. This is arguably a bug, or at least unexpected, so we'll probably change it. But for now, changing the project tempo should handle your situation.

vsthem · 07-01-2023, 08:11 AM

Got it! I was wondering where the 55 came from. I'd say this behavior was not expected, at least for me. Thanks so much for figuring this out for me!

06-30-2023, 11:10 AM	#1
vsthem Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 748	Insert Space at empty time selection problem Hi all! Trying to add time to the beginning of the session. The time I select is 4 beats at 52BPM. For reasons I can't figure out, when I run this, it inserts 4 beats at 55BPM, throwing the entire tempo map off of the grid. https://imgur.com/a/x6eyUxp If I adjust the newly created 55BPM time sig to 52BPM, the whole tempo map remains off the grid Is there something I'm missing here, or is it a bug? If it's a bug, is there a workaround? Thanks in advance!

06-30-2023, 11:26 AM	#2
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 16,954	Can you possibly remove all tracks from that project except the master track and tempo envelope, and post it for us to look at?

07-01-2023, 05:29 AM	#4
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 16,954	Thanks for sharing the project. It should work the way you expect if you go to File/Project Settings and set the project tempo to 52 rather than 55. When inserting space before the initial tempo marker, the project tempo is used rather than the initial tempo marker. This is arguably a bug, or at least unexpected, so we'll probably change it. But for now, changing the project tempo should handle your situation.

07-01-2023, 08:11 AM	#5
vsthem Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 748	Got it! I was wondering where the 55 came from. I'd say this behavior was not expected, at least for me. Thanks so much for figuring this out for me!