"Move crossfade ignoring snap (relative edge edit" randomly doesn't respect selection

souk21 · 08-27-2023, 03:20 AM

Steps:

Select multiple items
Run action "Item: Split items at play cursor"
Use mouse modifier "Move crossfade ignoring snap (relative edge edit)" on one of the crossfade

Result: Half of the time only a single crossfade moves, use "Edit: Undo" and try again until it works (see gif)

Expected: Crossfades always move on all selected items

Reproduced in all versions I tested including 6.80 and the latest 7pre.
In preferences, "Split media items" is set to "Fade-in/fade-out" and "Overlap and crossfade"
Using macos 12.6

Edit with more info:

Quote:

Originally Posted by souk21

Hm I just noticed something:
When grabbing near the top of the item, it works almost every time.
But when dragging a bit lower it seems completely random... Weird.

"Relative edge edit" is enabled and "Media item bottom half" context is only "Default : Pass through to item click context" if that helps.

HDY · 09-01-2023, 05:52 AM

I originally thought it was caused by mouse modifiers/crossfades, but it happens when splitting grouped items/multiple selected items then editing the split point.

Group split & edit:

Not grouped, just selected & split edited:

Sometimes grouped items become ungrouped when making many splits & edits. Those items then need to be manually re-grouped. I haven't been able to capture that behavior in an image.

This bug can grind multitrack sessions to a hault. Group edits & crossfades that aren't being applied correctly (especially in large complex projects), simply cause major disruptions without explanation.

Link to my report: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=280843

souk21 · 09-01-2023, 07:48 AM

Hm I just noticed something:
When grabbing near the top of the item, it works almost every time.
But when dragging a bit lower it seems completely random... Weird.

"Relative edge edit" is enabled and "Media item bottom half" context is only "Default : Pass through to item click context" if that helps.

souk21 · 09-09-2023, 09:40 AM

Bump

It adds a lot of friction to multitracks edits

HDY · 09-09-2023, 06:18 PM

Fixed in v7.0pre20 - September 9 2023:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzuki

v7.0pre20 - September 9 2023[*]+ Media items: improve multiple selection behavior when editing crossfade or shared media item edges [t=282099]

souk21 · 09-10-2023, 04:44 AM

Oh thanks I missed it!

09-01-2023, 05:52 AM	#2
HDY Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 59	I originally thought it was caused by mouse modifiers/crossfades, but it happens when splitting grouped items/multiple selected items then editing the split point. Group split & edit: Not grouped, just selected & split edited: Sometimes grouped items become ungrouped when making many splits & edits. Those items then need to be manually re-grouped. I haven't been able to capture that behavior in an image. This bug can grind multitrack sessions to a hault. Group edits & crossfades that aren't being applied correctly (especially in large complex projects), simply cause major disruptions without explanation. Link to my report: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=280843 Last edited by HDY; 09-09-2023 at 06:14 PM.

09-01-2023, 07:48 AM	#3
souk21 Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 627	Hm I just noticed something: When grabbing near the top of the item, it works almost every time. But when dragging a bit lower it seems completely random... Weird. "Relative edge edit" is enabled and "Media item bottom half" context is only "Default : Pass through to item click context" if that helps.

09-09-2023, 09:40 AM	#4
souk21 Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 627	Bump It adds a lot of friction to multitracks edits

09-10-2023, 04:44 AM	#6
souk21 Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 627	Oh thanks I missed it!