Preserve PDC delayed monitoring in recorded items

GuitarKeyes · 06-11-2009, 12:38 PM

Has anybody heard a difference with this when recording vsti's. I can. My midi perfomances sound much tighter than before and i've noticed that quantizing works alot better now because the midi notes are now in the right spot with the grid. I really think that this is the answer to the early midi problem. I'm just thankful that the dev's realized the problem and gave us an easy way to fix it withought having to worry about messing with offsets and nudging items after recordings.

beingmf · 07-10-2009, 09:08 AM

where can i find this? my midi tracks are always too early!

gofer · 07-10-2009, 09:53 AM

It's in the track's input/recording/monitoring menue (rightclick the meter).

Yes, it helps here too, also when recording guitar through an amp sim.
I have to work with 256 samples buffer when there is some weight on the cpu, so I guess I learnt to compensate quite a timespan. I also always had my stuff appear early once recorded and that's far better now

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The best thing is I don't have to measure and remember timing offsets. Just tick that option for stuff I record monitoring through Reaper (which is always) and all is well.

At least I got the feeling. I can't exactly claim to be the human metronome, so I always blamed it on me. It's definitely better now.

Tallisman · 07-10-2009, 10:44 AM

I too have noticed some improvement...
thinking about tweaking all my VSTi track templates to reflect that.
anyone know if this setting is preserved in a track template?

.t

Ollie · 07-10-2009, 10:52 AM

...it is.

musicbynumbers · 07-10-2009, 11:23 AM

Deleted as I get it now!

afer doing some... "RTFF"!

emanresuym · 07-10-2009, 11:26 AM

Is there a reason why we don't have an option to set this on/off globally,or do we & I just missed it?

GuitarKeyes · 07-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Just curious...When's the appropriate time to engage "preserve PDC delayed monioring in recorded items"?. Is it all the time or only when monitoring using vsti's or effects.
My guess would be the latter because why would you want to "preserve PDC" if there is no plugin to be compensated for. Could I just get clarification of when this should be used and when to not use it? And just to be clear, this option was intended to fix the problem of midi notes being recorded early when recording with vsti's, right? I just want to make sure I am using this appropriately.

My observations:
What I have seen is that "preserve PDC" will shift an item forward(compensate) by x ms/samples based on the plugins reported delay/latency. However, I have also noticed that "preserve PDC" will also shift items forward that do not even have plugins in their track. Why would it do this? Shouldn't "preserve PDC" only shift items forward that actually have plugins in their track that need their latency to be compensated for? It should not be making up some non existant latency that doesn't exist(which is what appears because where would it be getting its numbers?). I would like to know where it is getting its getting its information? Another observation is that on every track that has this option engaged the items are shifted by the exact same ms/samples even with different plugins on them or no plugins on them(as I explained above). Why? doesn't each plugin have it's own unique latency to be compensated for? It should not be the same shift for every item on every track that has this option engaged. So now I am questioning if this even works or if you guys just put the option there to suffice the midi complaints. Again, I would like to know where "preserve PDC" is getting its information because this should not be the same shift for every item. An explanation please.

beingmf · 07-16-2009, 05:56 AM

can we please make this a TOP OF THE LIST feature request?
it's absolutely horrible when you've just played the rhodes solo of your life, and afterwards it's as wrong as @€\}*.
i would either
- have it switched ON by default or
- have it implemented anyway - not switchable. I don't see any application where it would be WRONG to have PDC engaged. if there's a plugin that doesn't report its delay correctly, then your midi recording will be sounding wrong either way, no?