Old 09-02-2009, 07:38 PM   #1
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Default Amp Sim MegaShootout!

***update****

Here is the RPP, just grab this and life should be way easier http://shup.com/Shup/211040/megatest.zip

***end update***


OK, I made some clean tracks to test all sorts of different amp sim plugins

Here's the DI one guitar is hard left the other is hard right

The DI tracks are below

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210092/shootout-clean.wav

The DI tracks are above

Now, This isnt anything super exact, as there are sooooo many variables involved, but at least it should give an idea of the tones available

PLEASE feel free to add your own examples using the supplied files!

Let me know if I'm wasting my time or if you guys find this sort of thing useful, if it makes sense Ill post more in a bit, and the chains I used for each if anyone is interested

BTE TS Secret + Preampus Brain: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210140/...mpus-Brain.mp3

Preampus Brain: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210141/Preampus-Brain.mp3

BTE Juicy 77: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210142/juicy77.mp3

Simulanalog JCM900: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210143/jcm900.mp3

Softube Vintage Amp Room: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210144/...e-amp-room.mp3

Revalver MKIII JSX: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210145/revalver-JSX.mp3

Revalver MKIII XXX: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210146/revalver-XXX.mp3

RobRokken 808: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210127/robrokken808.mp3

Acme Bar Gig Razor: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210218/Razor.mp3

RPP for razor https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210219/razor.RPP

Revalver - thanks Carbon!: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210256/...ith_triode.mp3

PODFarm - thanks pattonfreak!: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620331/SimTest.mp3

More RobRokken 808: http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/r...n808sample.mp3

Juicy77 left, razor right, kompound metal madness kick and snare, verbiage, CMX and rocket: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210434/combos.mp3

ABG DIG- thanks StepOne!: https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620628/DIGtest.mp3

Thanks Shredder:
Here are the samples of the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210471/...Metal-C-15.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210472/...-Metal-ISX.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210473/...-Series-60.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210475/...-Catharsis.mp3

Also Included Cyan Experimental as well:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210470/ABG-Cyan.mp3

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Old 09-02-2009, 07:50 PM   #2
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Updated with RobRokken 808
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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Personally, I think the RobRokkenAudio one kicks butt!!!

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Old 09-02-2009, 10:43 PM   #4
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What are you doing for cabs? Something sounds very stereo on some of these. I think chains would be super helpful.

I'll make some guitar rig 3 versions if I can duplicate your cab...
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the original file at the top of this post includes two clean guitars panned hard left and hard right
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:03 AM   #6
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What IR are you using - what is the chain as well?

The RobRokken 808 is scooped at 550Hz
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:10 AM   #7
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Razor added

here's the RPP for it https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210219/razor.RPP

The other files are pretty much the same, same impulse except in plugins that had their own cab sims like revalver, jcm900 and juicy77
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:11 AM   #8
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I like that vintage amp room one, sounds good!
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:29 AM   #9
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Most interesting in that series for me:

The last one, Acme Bar Gig Razor, sounded soloed too middish for me... but as soon as the drums come in it seems to be just right.

That reminds me to my old fights with guitar players when it comes to mixdown: "Solo my guitar! ... Oh NO! Its not phat enough! We have to re-record this, my stack in real sounds soooo much better!"
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:26 AM   #10
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Had a quick try too.
Sorry about the drums

Revalver MKIII - 6505 mod with a single triode in front:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210256/...ith_triode.mp3
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:24 AM   #11
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Had a quick try too.
Sorry about the drums

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210256/...ith_triode.mp3
sounds like the intro to limelight with that tone.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:24 AM   #12
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Here's PODFarm:
Gate>TS>Spinal Puppet>2001 Line 6 4x12>57 straight>comp>eq

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620331/SimTest.mp3





(in Nacho Libre voice)"Is the beeeeeeest!"





PS: And what the hell is the RobRokken 808 and why am I hearing about it just now?
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:29 AM   #13
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which amp sim is 'Acme Bar Gig Razor'?
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:33 AM   #14
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Can't access shup files; every time I try to download I get a different filesize, and none of them plays.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:33 AM   #15
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Pipe - Would it be more accurate to use the same cab and impulse for each?

Even if you're using a sim with built in cab modeling, you can diable the onboard cab and use an external IR - might be easier to point out the distinguishing features of each sim that way.

Also - it might be cool to post up the DI's your using, so everyone can experiment with the same material.

So, if you can post the IR and the DI, maybe even a track template - everyone could be on the same page.

There are a few others not mentioned:

Nick Crow 8505
Nick Crow 7170
LePau Solo C
Dirthead

PS - this is an awesome idea!
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:38 AM   #16
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Also - it might be cool to post up the DI's your using, so everyone can experiment with the same material.
The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right
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The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right
Ooooooh *facepalm*

my bad.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:55 AM   #18
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pipline, in your wave there is a hidden secret i'd like to know

you don't need any effect, to distort it.

what for sure you don't have to search for effects in the web,
you allready have them in JS.

(any way thank you for the knoledge, it helps).

what the secret in your wave , make it so easy to distort ?

actually, what i'm after, is how to produce, a synth wave, that it'll be easy do distort, as your wave.

so far, i tried my best with no success.

i successed, with several plugins, to make something,
but not with one simple JS distortion effect, as with your wave.
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"what the secret in your wave , make it so easy to distort ? "

I don't see any secrets there lol, Just some wave files.. I know I record my guitars at -15 db.

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Old 09-03-2009, 11:09 AM   #20
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Ok, Here's my contrib:

RobRokkenAudio Roktion-808, JS Amp Sim and Reaverb :

Screenshot:

http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/robrokken808.JPG

Sample:
http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/r...n808sample.mp3
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I'm not sure what exactly you are referring to. Theres a plugin called "TS- Secret" on the first example file, but not the others. Im going to put the Razor RPP in the first post so its easier to see how I did it
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which amp sim is 'Acme Bar Gig Razor'?
Acme Bar Gig Razor IS the amp sim.

I think Brain sounds great personnably.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:36 PM   #23
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DIG 2.0
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620628/DIGtest.mp3
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:13 PM   #24
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Here are the samples of the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210519/...Metal-C-15.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210521/...-Metal-ISX.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210522/...-Series-60.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210523/...-Catharsis.mp3

Also Included Cyan Experimental as well:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210524/ABG-Cyan.mp3

For the samples I used Pipe's setting with Kefir and Catharsis s-preshigh IR

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:07 PM   #25
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ABG (Acmebargig) DIG 2.5 - variation 1:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1370552/ABG-DIG25-1.mp3

ABG (Acmebargig) DIG 2.5 - variation 2:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1370552/ABG-DIG25-2.mp3
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The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right

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Ooooooh *facepalm*

my bad.
x2...my DIG sample is a mono sum widened, oops
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #27
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Here's a slightly cranked up stereo version from a Revalver MKIII bank called Le Petite and preset called On Stage.

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210516/...e-On-Stage.mp3

I just used one clip (centred) and ran it in stereo through Revalver. I think that's OK because Revalver can deal with stereo files.


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Old 09-03-2009, 03:56 PM   #28
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Here are more PreAmpUs from the hybrid line and including Nike Crow and SoloC amp-sims:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210527/ABG-Dick-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210528/ABG-Gimme-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210529/ABG-Meat-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210531/...uckle-Head.mp3

And just because Chris_P made a request, I felt obliged to included Nike Crow - great stuff:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210533/Nick-Crow-7170.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210534/Nick-Crow-8505.mp3

Last but not least:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210535/LePou-SoloC.mp3

Again same, Pipe's setting with Kefir and Catharsis s-preshigh IR
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:00 PM   #29
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Here are the samples of the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210519/...Metal-C-15.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210521/...-Metal-ISX.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210522/...-Series-60.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210523/...-Catharsis.mp3

Also Included Cyan Experimental as well:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210524/ABG-Cyan.mp3

For the samples I used Pipe's setting with Kefir and Catharsis s-preshigh IR
How the hell did you get the METAL series if it hasn't been released yet?
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How the hell did you get the METAL series if it hasn't been released yet?
Heheh... Membership has it's privileges!
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:08 PM   #31
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Here's LiteOn's brand new JS, FARModulator, wherein an external signal can act as a modulator in an FM system. Tweak the setting just right, add a "fake" cab sim using a 12dB resonant filter, and you get this:

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620827/...aked%20Cab.mp3

Just trying to show there's more than one way to get an interesting tone.
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Okay, for something a little (well, a lot) less synthy, here's the Emerald FalconHead JS, contributed by new member Destructavator. It also uses a 12dB resonant filter as a "faked" cab emulator.

https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620831/...aked%20Cab.mp3
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Here are more PreAmpUs from the hybrid line and including Nike Crow and SoloC amp-sims:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210527/ABG-Dick-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210528/ABG-Gimme-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210529/ABG-Meat-Head.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210531/...uckle-Head.mp3

And just because Chris_P made a request, I felt obliged to included Nike Crow - great stuff:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210533/Nick-Crow-7170.mp3
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210534/Nick-Crow-8505.mp3

Last but not least:
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/210535/LePou-SoloC.mp3

Again same, Pipe's setting with Kefir and Catharsis s-preshigh IR
Good looking out Shredmeister! I looooooooove Nick Crow's stuff.
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Heheh... Membership has it's privileges!
And how do I obtain this "membership"?
(i ask cuz i simply MUST have them)
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https://stash.reaper.fm/3594/whatsuprazor.mp3
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Just trying to show there's more than one way to get an interesting tone.
that's right, and nice
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And how do I obtain this "membership"?
(i ask cuz i simply MUST have them)
Hey Patton - the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims will be out soon. Which one did you like the best?
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DIG 2.0 (Stereo)
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/620995/...t%20Stereo.mp3
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heres some drums you can use with the rpp if you dont want to midi it up
http://shup.com/Shup/210492/drums.wav
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RobRokkenAudio SubFuzz into JS Amp Marshall :

http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/SubFuzzRokken.mp3

Crusty little sucker.

RobRokkenAudio 808 into the RRA Amp:

http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/robamptest4511.mp3



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