New action: Split only selected items at edit cursor

[EricM]

With all three variations no change selection,
select left, select right.

Reason: Current action splits items on all tracks if
there is no selection, which might not be desireable
always. I know undo is quick and healing is possible
at any time later, but sometimes I just don't notice
it when I'm editing quickly with full zoom, so a
specific function would be very helpful.

Issue Tracker.

[EvilDragon]

Voted!

[shakey.oberon]

voted

[tosiabunio]

I am for this option as well. I happened to me on several occasions that I did split some media items without knowing this (they were collapsed or off screen or otherwise hidden). I know that I can heal the splits but sometimes the split messes up fades and heal operation isn't equivalent to undo.

[musicbynumbers]

you can use split at mouse cursor to avoid this too but a few more types would be nice

[EricM]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

you can use split at mouse cursor to avoid this too but a few more types would be nice

Indeed, but not multiple selected items if I'm not mistaken

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by EricM

Indeed, but not multiple selected items if I'm not mistaken

Yeah it only does the one under it, i use a macro to bring the edit cursor to the mouse and then split at edit cursor. Can't remember why i ended up doing this now though! lol think it's the only way to split multiple tracks at the mouse cursor.

[Barrail]

+1
Barrail

[WyattRice]

Voted Yes!

[brucie]

Yes !

OT: I dont know other DAWs, so : how do Cubase/Sonar/Logic/PT split, all work with "Tools" IIRC, how is that supposed to work ?

[gofer]

Actually I like the behavior of Reaper's split function, although it was new to me as well. Then again, I do most splitting at mouse cursor.

For those who got Python installed, this little ReaScript does the trick. It uses "Split items at edit or play cursor, but that can easily be changed to any of the other actions by simply changing the number 40012 to the according Command ID and save the edited script. (find the Cmd IDs by ticking "Show action IDs" in the action window's context menu)

SplitItems = 40012

selItems = RPR_CountSelectedMediaItems(0)

if (selItems!=0):
  RPR_Main_OnCommand(SplitItems, 0)

This script splits (only and all) selected items at the mouse cursor's position in time (obeys snap):

MoveCursor = 40513
SplitItems = 40757

selItems = RPR_CountSelectedMediaItems(0)

if (selItems!=0):
  RPR_Main_OnCommand(MoveCursor, 0)
  RPR_Main_OnCommand(SplitItems, 0)

Both are in the attached zip file. Unpack them to a folder and click on ReaScript: New/load... in Reaper's action window to add them to the list. As mentioned, only works with python installed on the system. Which is why I voted for the request .

[EricM]

Woah thanks for this gofer!

[pw3]

Voted - I too have tripped over this more than once.

[Jeffos]

Voted!

Also, I've added alternative split actions that split all and *only* selected items in the the latest SWS Extensions (v1.7.2 #10).

Originally Posted by gofer

This script splits (only and all) selected items at the mouse cursor's position in time (obeys snap):

.. very cool with armed toolbar button, gofer! I stole than one, but, due to intellectual property, it turned into:
SWS/gofer: Split selected items at mouse cursor (obey snapping)

(I'll help you in the crazy case some bugs are found )

[EricM]

You guys rock 8)

Jeffos, would it be hard to implement another version that also snaps to grid?
I have two macros made, one that splits anything below mouse cursor at it,
and one that moves edit cursor to mouse cursor, snaps to nearest grid point
and split the item below cursor.

It would be great if I could have a set of actions for only selected items, super
fast and error-free slicing!

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[gofer]

Wait, ole gofer is in the SWS extension action list?

Wow, how cool is that!

[lalo]

+1! voted

[hopi]

I'm confused by this req....

I can split any and all selected items right now...

I just have to select them first...

now to add a thought to the fray.... another way I like to do this is: In main tcp toolbar I have an icon for the action, 'split items at edit or play cursor'... and that let's me arm that action..

so then with the cursor at a given position, I can just rapidly clk on each item it want to split... the item becomes selected and splits...

so it seems to me there are already a fews ways to get this done, no? What am I not understanding????

[gofer]

In case that no item is selected, Reaper will split all items that happen to be at that timestamp.

The OP's request is that if no item is selected, Reaper shouldn't split at all. Which makes some sense. Though I have come to like Reaper's method, "split only if selected" will be useful to make some custom actions more consistent and fool-prooved.

[hopi]

ah I see... thanks for the clarity Gofer.... split only if selected a toggle I presume... yes, makes good sense

like everyone I have inadvertently split a mess o' items by mistake....

come to think about it... really 'split only if selected' should be default.... and then 'split any damn thing under the cursor' should be the "use with caution" toggle....

[pjs]

Glad this FR got resurrected. Didn't even know it existed.

Voted.

[Evan]

+1 to this including...

split only selected items and/or selected tracks (split nothing if nothing is selected)

it should be the default split behavior (maybe in reaper 4)

the current behavior is prone to causing problems.

Also (not sure if this already exists, didn't need it yet): separate actions to split everything regardless of selections.

That would round up the split functionality nicely.

[schwa]

The OP's request is for new actions, but this could be handled as a preference, right?

[x] When splitting, if no items are selected, split all items

[AdamWathan]

Hmm, yeah maybe better to handle it as a preference... We have enough sets of splitting actions as it is.

[Evan]

As long as there is also a quick way to split all items (selected or not), then a preference for the default split function is fine.

[EricM]

Originally Posted by schwa

The OP's request is for new actions, but this could be handled as a preference, right?

[x] When splitting, if no items are selected, split all items

The reason I ask for another action, is so that user
would not require changing a preference to access
a still useful command directly with keyboard/toolbar.

Though it would not make a difference for me, I still
think having a separate action would be better.

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[Evan]

An opinion I expressed in another thread:

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=32

in short:

change the current option 'If no items are selected, split everything'

and make it: 'Warn me before splitting all items, when no item is selected'

When you try to split with no items selected, you get a warning dialog that you are about to split everything. OK and Cancel buttons below, 'OK' button is focused so hitting enter gets rid of the dialog and proceeds with the split. There is also a checkbox 'Warn me again next time' which changes/reflects the setting in the preferences.

[Some Guy]

but why warn me if i can just undo anyway? that would slow down workflow for those who use this feature

[Evan]

You would not enable the "warn" option then and you'll be fine.

But here's what's happened to me:

Zoomed-in on some items. Some where muted, (which makes them look dark, similar to selected). I want to split the items I see in my close view. In the speed of things, I forget to select items before I split. I hit split, all items get split, I do not notice that unwanted items get split as well because I am zoomed in. I carry one with my editing and moving things around (all items in that location get edited and moved around because they were selected after the split and I do not notice). A few minutes later my arrangement is screwed up... now I notice.

So if you ask me, yes, I do want a warning. And yes I would appreciate an additional set of actions for 'split all' (one for just visible tracks, and one for everything including invisible tracks). These separate and specific actions I would use with care.

[daxliniere]

Originally Posted by Some Guy

but why warn me if i can just undo anyway? that would slow down workflow for those who use this feature

Because, as I have done many times, it may go unnoticed for several minutes of editing. Sure, you can undo, but obviously you'd lose many other changes.

[gofer]

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Originally Posted by daxliniere

Voted.

[daxliniere]

Hi Gofer,
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I take it you're referring to this:

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[EricM]

Originally Posted by daxliniere

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[DanXIV]

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[daxliniere]

Thanks EricM,
Now I don't have to bother everyone with "Voted" posts anymore!

All the best,