Why do waveforms disappear?

tombuur · 05-15-2011, 10:02 AM

In Reaper 4 the waveforms disappear unless I zoom in a lot more than I want to get the big picture. Is there a setting somewhere to turn this off? I can't find it.

hihat · 05-15-2011, 10:57 AM

not sure this could help but i know theres an option in peaks\waveforms 'only display peaks for selected tracks'...

tombuur · 05-16-2011, 09:52 AM

Thanks, I've been there ...

I can't believe this. Unless I zoom in to two numbered ticks per bar or closer, there are no visible waveforms, only grey media blocks. Is it like that for all of you, or has a setting been changed in my setup? And where to change it back then?

gofer · 05-16-2011, 10:11 AM

Absolutely no idea, sorry. It works as it always did here and I don't know of a setting that hides peaks depending on zoom.

What happens when you rename the REAPER.ini file and restart Reaper with fresh preferences?

Jack Winter · 05-17-2011, 10:02 AM

Have you run out of diskspace where you keep your peak files? Maybe try to regenerate the peak files?

tombuur · 05-17-2011, 01:37 PM

I have 2TB on the recording drive using only 25%.

Rebuilding peak files seemed to be the safest thing to try first, but it didn't make a difference.

Then I renamed reaper.ini and the suddely waveforms were there no matter what zoom stage. Thanks for that advice. However, I didn't see Reaper build any new reaper.ini as many other programs do when the *.ini is missing. So I tried renaming the disabled ini back to reaper.ini again. Once more I lost waveforms when zooming out.

But what happens if I permanently delete reaper.ini and it doesn't build a new one. Will I lose some settings I have made? Will I lose settings I make in the future because they aren't stored?

DarkStar · 05-17-2011, 01:50 PM

It will always build one if it cannot find one. Just make a backup copy every so often.

But, perhaps you can compare a "good" one and the problem one (they will open in a Text Editor) to see what the difference is. That would help track down the problem.

gofer · 05-17-2011, 02:20 PM

It builds a new one as soon as you close Reaper.
You lose a lot of your preference settings when starting with no REAPER.ini and let it rebuild. That's the bitter side of the story. So in your case, start a fresh one now and redo your preference settings for once.

But, if you still have the broken one, keep it (renamed) and let the devs have a look for what might be the culprit and hopefully sort it out. I think I have seen another post with this problem somewhere.

tombuur · 05-28-2011, 02:01 AM

I am back after a trip to New York ...

I solved the problem this way:

Renamed reaper.ini to reaperDISABLED.ini and a new reaper.ini was made, at least after a Win7 restart just in case ...

The fresh reaper.ini contained very little whereas mine contained a lot, probably all my personalized settings etc. that I wouldn't want to lose. Since the new reaper.ini contained no lines with the word peak in it, I assumed it would be safe to delete all lines containing words with "peak". At most I would lose my personal preferences about peaks.

After deleting all those lines it now works, and I still have all my other settings like Reamenus, SWS etc.

But why did this problem occur. If there is no way to change it back using Preferences in Reaper, I cannot have changed it myself. So it may be something bug-like?

gofer · 05-28-2011, 02:06 AM

Again, if you still have the faulty REAPER.ini, please let the devs have a look at it.

tourtelot · 09-16-2011, 07:26 PM

I have this same issue. I need to zoom way in (about 3 seconds to cross the screen) for my waveforms to show up.

Tried "rebuild peaks" but no luck.

Anyone got any other ideas?

D.

tourtelot · 09-16-2011, 07:36 PM

Preferences> Media> (uncheck) "Store all peak cashes in alternate path"

D.

Aikido123 · 12-08-2020, 09:04 AM

Same issue for me. Tourtelot's solution got them back for me too. Seems like a bug in the "store reapeaks files to custom directory" feature to this day.

Thanks

ramses · 12-17-2020, 10:40 AM

Try not releasing the audio driver while inactive. It somewhere in preferences if I recall correctly.

maxdembo · 12-18-2020, 08:35 AM

Just like me, they long to be, close to you.

olivier8064 · 09-08-2024, 04:38 AM

Hi,
I had the same problem. I solved it by renaming the file name, with a shorter one.
REgards

ggrey · 09-08-2024, 07:56 AM

I see this has happened to many out there, not yet to me, so I am saving this thread in my stats folder since I do not know what a .ini file is. Thanks in advance for the info.

hans · 10-16-2024, 01:05 AM

Just stumpled on this post, not having issues, but I've experienced this when the pathways folder and filenames are veery long.

Justin · 10-24-2024, 08:32 AM

Working on some fixes for this -- as a workaround if you set the option in preferences/peaks to use the alternate path when unable to write peaks, it should fix.

05-15-2011, 10:02 AM	#1
tombuur Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 465	Why do waveforms disappear? In Reaper 4 the waveforms disappear unless I zoom in a lot more than I want to get the big picture. Is there a setting somewhere to turn this off? I can't find it. __________________ Reaper 5, latest release, 64-bit w SWS \|GA Z270 UD5\|Intel i7 K7700\|32 GB RAM\|Fireface 800\|500GB SSD sys, 1TB SSD Rec, 4TB HDD samples\|Win 10 64bit\|Dynaudio BM6A\|Softube Console 1\|Sonnox\|Waves\|Melda\|Superior 3\|Komplete 12U\|Melodyne\|Slate\|Izotope.

05-16-2011, 09:52 AM	#3
tombuur Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 465	Thanks, I've been there ... I can't believe this. Unless I zoom in to two numbered ticks per bar or closer, there are no visible waveforms, only grey media blocks. Is it like that for all of you, or has a setting been changed in my setup? And where to change it back then? __________________ Reaper 5, latest release, 64-bit w SWS \|GA Z270 UD5\|Intel i7 K7700\|32 GB RAM\|Fireface 800\|500GB SSD sys, 1TB SSD Rec, 4TB HDD samples\|Win 10 64bit\|Dynaudio BM6A\|Softube Console 1\|Sonnox\|Waves\|Melda\|Superior 3\|Komplete 12U\|Melodyne\|Slate\|Izotope.

05-17-2011, 10:02 AM	#5
Jack Winter Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Luxembourg/Spain Posts: 1,922	Have you run out of diskspace where you keep your peak files? Maybe try to regenerate the peak files? __________________ Reaper for Linux Documentation (WIP). Software: Archlinux/KDE, Fabfilter FX, Komplete 8, Nebula, Schwa/Stillwell, T-racks Max/Amplitube/SVX, etc. Gear: i7-2600k/4700HQ/16GB, RME Multiface/Babyface, Behringer X32, Genelec 8040, etc. :)

05-17-2011, 01:37 PM	#6
tombuur Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 465	I have 2TB on the recording drive using only 25%. Rebuilding peak files seemed to be the safest thing to try first, but it didn't make a difference. Then I renamed reaper.ini and the suddely waveforms were there no matter what zoom stage. Thanks for that advice. However, I didn't see Reaper build any new reaper.ini as many other programs do when the *.ini is missing. So I tried renaming the disabled ini back to reaper.ini again. Once more I lost waveforms when zooming out. But what happens if I permanently delete reaper.ini and it doesn't build a new one. Will I lose some settings I have made? Will I lose settings I make in the future because they aren't stored? __________________ Reaper 5, latest release, 64-bit w SWS \|GA Z270 UD5\|Intel i7 K7700\|32 GB RAM\|Fireface 800\|500GB SSD sys, 1TB SSD Rec, 4TB HDD samples\|Win 10 64bit\|Dynaudio BM6A\|Softube Console 1\|Sonnox\|Waves\|Melda\|Superior 3\|Komplete 12U\|Melodyne\|Slate\|Izotope.

05-17-2011, 01:50 PM	#7
DarkStar Human being with feelings Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 19,787	It will always build one if it cannot find one. Just make a backup copy every so often. But, perhaps you can compare a "good" one and the problem one (they will open in a Text Editor) to see what the difference is. That would help track down the problem. __________________ DarkStar ... interesting, if true. . . . Inspired by ...

05-15-2011, 10:57 AM	#2
hihat Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 119	not sure this could help but i know theres an option in peaks\waveforms 'only display peaks for selected tracks'...

05-16-2011, 10:11 AM	#4
gofer Feeling human with beings Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,439	Absolutely no idea, sorry. It works as it always did here and I don't know of a setting that hides peaks depending on zoom. What happens when you rename the REAPER.ini file and restart Reaper with fresh preferences?

05-17-2011, 02:20 PM	#8
gofer Feeling human with beings Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,439	It builds a new one as soon as you close Reaper. You lose a lot of your preference settings when starting with no REAPER.ini and let it rebuild. That's the bitter side of the story. So in your case, start a fresh one now and redo your preference settings for once. But, if you still have the broken one, keep it (renamed) and let the devs have a look for what might be the culprit and hopefully sort it out. I think I have seen another post with this problem somewhere.

05-28-2011, 02:01 AM	#9
tombuur Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 465	I am back after a trip to New York ... I solved the problem this way: Renamed reaper.ini to reaperDISABLED.ini and a new reaper.ini was made, at least after a Win7 restart just in case ... The fresh reaper.ini contained very little whereas mine contained a lot, probably all my personalized settings etc. that I wouldn't want to lose. Since the new reaper.ini contained no lines with the word peak in it, I assumed it would be safe to delete all lines containing words with "peak". At most I would lose my personal preferences about peaks. After deleting all those lines it now works, and I still have all my other settings like Reamenus, SWS etc. But why did this problem occur. If there is no way to change it back using Preferences in Reaper, I cannot have changed it myself. So it may be something bug-like? __________________ Reaper 5, latest release, 64-bit w SWS \|GA Z270 UD5\|Intel i7 K7700\|32 GB RAM\|Fireface 800\|500GB SSD sys, 1TB SSD Rec, 4TB HDD samples\|Win 10 64bit\|Dynaudio BM6A\|Softube Console 1\|Sonnox\|Waves\|Melda\|Superior 3\|Komplete 12U\|Melodyne\|Slate\|Izotope.

05-28-2011, 02:06 AM	#10
gofer Feeling human with beings Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,439	Again, if you still have the faulty REAPER.ini, please let the devs have a look at it.

09-16-2011, 07:26 PM	#11
tourtelot Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 197	I have this same issue. I need to zoom way in (about 3 seconds to cross the screen) for my waveforms to show up. Tried "rebuild peaks" but no luck. Anyone got any other ideas? D. __________________ Douglas Tourtelot, CAS Seattle, WA

09-16-2011, 07:36 PM	#12
tourtelot Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 197	Preferences> Media> (uncheck) "Store all peak cashes in alternate path" D. __________________ Douglas Tourtelot, CAS Seattle, WA

12-08-2020, 09:04 AM	#13
Aikido123 Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 103	Same issue for me. Tourtelot's solution got them back for me too. Seems like a bug in the "store reapeaks files to custom directory" feature to this day. Thanks

12-17-2020, 10:40 AM	#14
ramses Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,240	Try not releasing the audio driver while inactive. It somewhere in preferences if I recall correctly.

12-18-2020, 08:35 AM	#15
maxdembo Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: All Hallows End Posts: 2,132	Why do waveforms disappear? Just like me, they long to be, close to you. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/smacksaladproductions http://soundcloud.com/ear

09-08-2024, 04:38 AM	#16
olivier8064 Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 3	solved by shorten the file name Hi, I had the same problem. I solved it by renaming the file name, with a shorter one. REgards

09-08-2024, 07:56 AM	#17
ggrey Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 328	I see this has happened to many out there, not yet to me, so I am saving this thread in my stats folder since I do not know what a .ini file is. Thanks in advance for the info.

10-16-2024, 01:05 AM	#18
hans Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 374	Just stumpled on this post, not having issues, but I've experienced this when the pathways folder and filenames are veery long.

10-24-2024, 08:32 AM	#19
Justin Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 16,810	Working on some fixes for this -- as a workaround if you set the option in preferences/peaks to use the alternate path when unable to write peaks, it should fix.